No, itâs not remotely like that.
An earnest rating of your movie is free speech. An organized campaign of fake reviews to kill your movieâs reach is not.
Big difference.
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And you are in charge of determining which review is real and which is Fake News?
What committee or universal algo will decide this?
THIS IS WHAT WE CAME HERE TO ESCAPE.
Why are you defending the indefensible?
It doesnât matter if I think somethingâs real or fake.
Weâre talking about the difference between someone earnestly saying âI watched the movie, and it sucked.â Fine.
And someone creating 1000 bot reviews of your movie saying it sucks in different ways so that no one sees it.
How is this not obvious to you?
Because the bots are code and also free speech. Who determines what are the good bots and the bad bots? Who died and made them King of Bots?
Nobody. Nobody has that power and nobody should want that power.
Anyone can write anything, so long as I don't have to read it and I don't have to let them write on relays I pay for.
Thatâs exactly what the bot in question is doing! Deciding who the good and bad posters are. And you are defending it!
If we agree that no one should be the arbiter of good and bad bots, surely no one should be the arbiter of good and bad people.
And therein lies Popperâs Paradox of Tolerance: the only thing we cannot tolerate is Intolerance because it destroys tolerance..
So if someone else is destroying your free speech, you should not tolerate that as speech. If someone is saying disagreeable things, thatâs speech that, however disagreeable, should be tolerated.
He is voicing his personal opinion. He is not deciding for everyone, everywhere.
Don't like his opinion? Mute him.
No he is not!
If someone doesnât like my movie and voices his personal opinion on it, fine.
If someone doesnât like my movie and creates a bot to post 1,000 negative reviews to deter others from ever seeing it, that is not.
I can mute the bot creator, sure, but now no one will see my movie, my speech is curtailed, not due to his negative opinion on it, but due to his actions to mislead others into thinking 1,000 independent people share his opinion when they donât.
These bots are a scourge, and though opportunists absolutely will build them, if you donât create an ethos to enact a reputational cost, I think weâll soon find the public square here less usual than Twitter.
less *useful*
You are missing the fact that the other people can write bots that mute bots and we have tools like WoT and relay separation to reduce data noise.
Humans will have the ability to curate their feed and clients and relays can adjust settings and offer filters.
But that's all the part you so don't want, so whatever. Done discussing it.
Youâre missing the part that just because itâs code doesnât excuse bad behavior including fraud, doxxing, libel, etc.
No idea you have a problem with me calling it out and encouraging others not to tolerate it as a matter of principle.
Same reason bitcoiners call out shitcoiners. Just because you can build a shitty scam coin doesnât mean you should.
We can stop talking about it, no problem though.
Some free speech is freer than other, it seems, if one puts enough resources into it.
Those who shout the loudest (e.g. with a gov't sponsored botfarm) will always mute the voices of sanity.
I've spent enough time on unregulated media to confirm this: where the mainstream propaganda is silent, "anti-mainstream" and equally absurd propaganda rises.
Nostr doesn't seem to be an exception as of now.
It's not. Everything that can be boted is doomed to change. A bot that censors other bots is also just a bot and all of that ends in a huge bot war wasting lot's of resources. No more human interaction necessary.
The good news is, that you can run your own relay with your friends. But there's no fame in it đ
and saying you can't say something because you impute intent to be against the public is despotism
straight up totalitarian censorship
if you can't recognise the difference and how accusing others of malicious propaganda campaigns is a malicious propaganda campaign then i have no words