Some random thoughts on what you guys are discussing:

1. I agree that we need more than bitcoin conversations. I think this is an onboarding / discovery problem that needs to be solved. Ideally you’d sign up and be able to choose some topics to follow. Naturally this would reduce your exposure to bitcoin.

2. Nostr is and will be different things for different people and people will join for a variety of reasons not one. For some it will be the nature of the protocol. For others it may be just exploring something new and different. And for some it may actually be the payment stuff.

3. Zaps ARE a huge innovation on top of Nostr and for many will be the distinguishing factor that make it special. To say that zaps should be tucked away somewhere because it scares people off is incorrect IMO. In fact, I would argue it’s the “decentralization” talking points that scare people away. It sounds a lot like crypto / scam industry.

4. I think we’ll see different use cases and clients bring in different audiences who experience nostr differently. If @Zapstr ever comes to life, those people would have little to do with knitting or bitcoin. They’ll just stick to music and possibly general conversations. The same goes for Onlyzaps (not the hashtag but only fans clones and the likes). For these industries, how you handle payments IS the differentiator. It seems people forget these other use cases and only talk about social…

5. That’s all… give it time. Relax. Build. Talk about things other than bitcoin ;) Don’t ask people to set up a wallet. Let them explore on their own.