We have no idea what "normal" variation in global temperatures is - because all data before the last decade is massively smoothed.

So there is no grounds to say whether any recent increases (if you believe they are correctly reported) are abnormal.

https://open.substack.com/pub/irrationalfear/p/smoothing-the-past

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this is the only real take about climate change. Some deniers reply to the big papers full of data with other big papers full of data.

What every individual should consider is that they are plotting data of temperatures from all the regions of the globe for the last thousand of years... like bro good thermometers hadnt been invented and you have the temperatures of the last centuries??? This is guessing bullshit propaganda, and doesnt need any phd or particular competence to understand it

yes.

and even the current temperatures they cite are usually from models that interpolate etc based on opaque assumptions.

and when you stop to think of it what does "global temperature" itself even means? it's not the average for the earth as that includes the molten core! so it's for the surface plus some slice of the atmosphere? the radiation temperature? it all becomes less and less meaningful, and more and more open to manipulation the more you think of it. the only measure that makes any kind of sense is total ocean energy, and nobody cares about that!

Today we are so powerful and knowledgeable, still we dont understand the full sense and interconnections of the universe. We probably will never know really whats happening here and we are limited in comprension by our human nature.

I think that the core of pretty all damage we can do to the ecosystem and to ourself is based on human hyperintervention on things.

If there is something about the climate bullshit I think could be true, is that a huge spike in the capacity of humans of modelling the world, in particular after the industrial revolutions, has caused and is causing some damages to ecosystem and humans themself.

Like, we become so powerful we can live in clean aseptic places -----> children developing deasease cause we actually didnt considered we need more contact with biodiversity and "dirt".

We can do multiple example of how high technical impact technologies, applied without cognition, that had a bad impact on people.

The actual climate histeria is actually a movement of high-technical hyperintervention on the ecosystem without a full understanding of whats happening. Its literally all the bad can human can do. They are double downing doing exactly what has historically caused problems to the ecosystems.

I'm for chirurgic, limited high technical interventions when there is an evident good outcome that justify all the potential badness that we are not considering we are causing.

Its like medicals: I'm for taking them when there's an obvious desease that can really hurt us, and we can get a huge benefit from taking a med; at least we will live to see the collateral effects in future.

Todays med histeria make people causing more damage that benefit to themself, taking pills like candies... and then, kids have suppressed immunitary system cause taking antibiotics on every little disease is not optimal....

Just let the market adjusts itself, whatever its happening today. Free markets made by free individuals recognizes bullshits very well.

yes unfortunately I think we're at the stage where even if there was some sort of genuine global emergency requiring a coordinated response, it would be impossible for our institutions to actually do anything - because they are so corrupted by this kind of anti realism.

even the climate stuff, if it were all true, the measures they propose couldn't possibly have any effect.

the problem is that none of the activists pushing this things care at all about the actual issues. they don't care about climate, trans people, Ukraine, respiratory viruses - all they care about is finding ways to bully and control people and raise their level in the herd.

That's a good point, also we are in an Ice Age right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation