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UFO's are a subject that I try to carefully "ringfence" away from the modern era of Chemtrail/Qanon/5G etc menagerie of disinformation, because I consider the former fundamentally different from the latter.

UFO's are not a "science" story... At least not yet. UFO's are a *government* story.

The evidence I would present is the multiple independent government witnesses who have testified under oath of unethical and illegal concealment of NHI by rogue elements in the DoD and IC. Claims that, in the case of David Grusch at least, were made under oath to Congress and were deemed by the IC IG as "credible and urgent."

The point is not Neil deGrasse Tyson scoffing about faster than light travel. It's, what precisely does the government know about this that they're not telling?

Let's figure that out and we'll get to the "alien" parts later.

jb55 2mo ago

> The evidence I would present is the multiple independent government witnesses who have testified under oath of unethical and illegal concealment of NHI by rogue elements in the DoD and IC. Claims that, in the case of David Grusch at least, were made under oath to Congress and were deemed by the IC IG as "credible and urgent."

he's getting stories from other people. he never saw any aliens or tech himself. i believe he believes, but it doesn't mean its true. he wants to believe just like all of us. its all self referential myth building without any evidence.

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Globe99 2mo ago 💬 1

He's made no pretense that he's actually directly observed or been in contact with NHI tech, but yes he is claiming these things exist based on his role as an intelligence officer tasks with investigating the issue. He is also making specific allegations about illegal misappropriation and administrative retaliation through both quasi-legal and extralegal means. Claims which, again, have been judged "urgent and credible" by the inspector general of the intelligence community.

Again, you can forget aliens (for now). The story isn't about that, at least not yet. It's about the potential existence of rogue elements within the Defence/IC operating under the cover of secrecy to conceal what *they believe* to be technology of incredible importance and power.

Scott ••• 2mo ago

I don’t want aliens unless they’re gonna have infrared vision and shoulder cannons.