I have yet to meet some who says that who truly “loves the sinner”. Not saying they don’t exist, but…
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I have dear friend who is gay. I have told him I hope someday he leaves that lifestyle and finds a wife so he can have a family. So yeah, here I am.
Agreed. Love isn’t coddling and just giving into whatever makes someone “happy”. Love is difficult, and makes decisions based on growth and morals.
I accept who my friends are and don't try to change them.
So, if your friend was drinking himself to death with alcohol, you'd just pat him on the back and give him another beer?
I don't get the comparison of alcoholism and gay sex? Can you elaborate?
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Sames. I don't get the analogy.
They think that both are a choice and a disease that could be cured
Yes, homosexual behavior is a choice. "Born this way" is a lie. Otherwise, how can you explain how 3-4 generations ago there were perhaps 1-2% of the population practicing these behaviors and now 20% of Gen Z claim to be alphabet people? The West went from tolerance of it, to "acceptance" of it to now full-on celebration. Now it is "cool" to be in this club and it is pushed by all major media, governments and corporations.
My friend told me many years ago that if it wasn't for closeted married men, that he would have barely had gay sex. My point here is that the lower percentage of "out" men has increased as it's been more socially acceptable to be gay. The numbers are only "going up" because acceptance is rising. Do you hink that makes sense?
Entertaining read all this 😅 Feels like I'm in a cult gathering, or a Jersey Mafia series named ...?
Alcoholism is degenerate behavior. Gay sex is also degenerate behavior. Both have negative social and personal consequences. The culture that gave you all of the good things you enjoy in life called these behaviors "sinful" and they were discouraged up until 20-30 years ago. And my point is that, if you know your friend is actively harming himself and you do nothing to help him, you aren't much of a friend.
I don't believe my two friends that have sex with one another are hurting themselves or slowly killing themselves so I don't reach out and ask them to stop. If they were alcoholics, I would talk to them about it and try to help them.
Okay, so you would talk to your friend if you believed their behavior was damaging to themselves. We are in agreement on that. I happen to believe homosexuality is damaging to men and you don't. As I said earlier, at a minimum homosexuality is genetic suicide. So you are happy that your friends are effectively voluntary eunuchs. I think that is quite sad.
That's okay man. They provide to the world in other ways. 🫂
I wouldn't want to be single and childless on my death bed. That is sad.
Me either, man. My kids are the best parts of my life. People that don't want kids confuse me a bit, because they would be missing out on so much love and joy. I would accept their decision even though I don't fully understand it.