To take this position, you have to assume 2,000 years of church teaching on this matter has been wrong. All the the theologians throughout the centuries have missed what what what this movement has discovered?

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If you want to appeal to church tradition (which is diverse) rather than Scripture as your authority, thatโ€™s your prerogative.

This โ€œmovementโ€ isnโ€™t new, but rooted in Scripture, the practices of the early Church, and the life of Christ.

If youโ€™re truly interested in understanding the position that men and women are equal in the sight of God, just like all races are, just like Galatians 3:28 says, there are many resources out there, some of which Iโ€™ve already shared and others which I will continue to share as time goes on.

Church teaching is rooted in scripture, what your implying is that your interpretation of the scripture is more accurate or more correct than the interpretation of the Church for the past two millennium.

No one is arguing men a woman are not equally valued by God, of course they are. But the notion the the sexes are equal in all respects, and shouldnโ€™t have different rolls absurd.

Women played a critical role in the New Testament but why didnโ€™t Christ have female disciples? Why didnโ€™t he have 6 female and 6 male?

I ask I to only to illustrate that that the God of of all creation who chose to come to earth through a woman new that the rolls that needed to be filled were different for each sex.

Iโ€™m realizing that youโ€™re not interested in following up on any resources I send you, addressing my responses or original post on their own merits, or looking into this matter as if my point of view has any potential truth. That makes continuing to answer you until that changes seem to be a waste of time.

But as a last response for now: all the apostles were also Jews. Does this mean only Jewish men can have leadership roles in the church?

Could it not simply be that he chose twelve Jewish men to echo the twelve sons of Israel?

Please feel free to discuss this matter further with me when you are actually willing to consider it.

Ethnicity is a not an equivalent to sex. Especially when sex is specifically addressed multiple time the context of rolls.

Gender rolls are so fundamental to life they are expressed biologically and socially in every mammal on the planet.

Itโ€™s difficult to give this more than a cursory thought due to the overwhelming evidence against the position in all human and animal social hierarchies.

But hey I agree with you on guns ๐Ÿ˜. Just donโ€™t want my daughters in the trenches.