1 - The liquidity provider of the swap service gets the BTC.

2- you can give people a view key so they can see your balance

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I’m not 100 sure about this but I think the view key sees only the ins but not the outs

afaik you are right, but he asked for a way to proof one has the coins

So even if you don’t see the outs, a decreasing or increasing amount could immediately be noticed, correct? … in that case you can argue that you don’t need to show the outs… but would be fine to have the choice on the other hand…

You are getting it Ben :)

I’m afraid not. You see the ins but not the outs therefore in a new account if 100 goes in and then 100 goes out you still see100. In other words the outs are not getting accounted

but the balance change of the address is shown, or not?

In my experience with a view key on a different computer I was only able to see the ins. So everything went good until I started to spend. On the “view” account I saw bigger balance than in the real account. I didn’t test it with other OS, though.

did not know that, interesting!

As far as I know you can prove you received or send it () but don’t know how to prove you have (not had) some monero. It might not be possible, definitely not in a bitcoin way. I guess you should move the funds to a new wallet on the last block and share the pub key right away. Or maybe some multisig way? I kind of like it. It makes it “unETFable”

Interesting. We will see about that :) someone would just do an monero etf and tell people to believe it and enough buyers will be found :)) same type of btc etf buyers… they know better, but do it anyway 😅

Everybody gets what they deserve

It doesn’t work like that, at least not with the view key sees only