this is provably incorrect.

monero recently does over 20% of bitcoins transaction volume.

at EVERY company that offers both Bitcoin and Monero payment methods, Monero is more popular.

absolutely agree Bitcoin has a larger network effect,

but your echo chamber is showing and it's not the disparity you think it is.

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Awww, cute. You didn't read anything that I said.

You have no idea how much is being transacted. It's private. We know total number of transactions. Roughly 30k per day on a erage over the past 12 months. Representk g likely a few hundred thousand in USD daily.

Bitcoin on the other hand transacted around 400k per day on avg over 12 months. Representing billions in USD.

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That's less than 8% not 20%.

It's like you guys just make shit up to feel good about your poor life choices

Wild

wow

I provide actual data about tx volume

you WILD GUESS data about tx value

but *we're* the ones making shit up

got it 👍

Ummm, I just gave you the averages over the 12 months. You apparently arbitrarily picked a random day? Lo

Man, you guys better hope bitcoiners and devs don't fix the current privacy issues. Y'all would be fucked.

Here they are using the same source....

I picked yesterday, like normal peope do.

but you're absolutely correct that the mempool is dead now and if you average in all the shitcoining that happened on Bitcoin last year it looks better.

you did guess tx value. which you have no fucking idea about.

and its absolutely true that when people jave the opportunity to use monero OR Bitcoin, the majority of people use monero.

it's simply a fact that people use monero to spend

and bitcoiners are tight with their sats.

this should surprise nobody.

Hahaha. 1 day?????

You must be a young lad.

1 month, 3 months, 12 months, 1 year, 3 years are standard business timeframes.

and you must be trying to find evidence to prove a conclusion.

ordinals are not p2p txs

runes arent either

neither are exchange consolidation txs

or coinjoins

so if you were ACTUALLY interested in the number of economic txs occuring on the BTC blockchain,

you would go about it in a much different way than some "standard business timeframe" bullshit that actually obscures the dataset.

Ah. So the past 12 months is trying to find evidence? Lol. It is clear you are just randomly moving the goalposts.

This tx doesn't count, but ours does!

Tell you what, go ahead and remove all visa prepaid card and dark web store purchases. I don't think those count as P2P transactions and aren't legit.

That what be insane.

I am quite sure you aren't a business owner, don't do stats analysis, nor do you have a clue about global finance and the future of money.

Peace out, this is pointless.

are you asserting that ANY of the examples I mentioned should be included as legit p2p txs?

or are you just babbling nonsense and cutting the conversation short because you have fuck-all to actually say?

The mempool being dead is still pricessing 10x the amount of daily tx than monero.

Your theory doesn't hold up.

I'm not saying that theres more activity on the monero than bitcoin.

I'm just saying your characterization of "nobody actually uses monero" is obviously horseshit.

"Man, you guys better hope bitcoiners and devs don't fix the current privacy issues. Y'all would be fucked."

I’m waiting patiently to embrace the day this happens… I won’t hold my breath tho…

How long can you hold your breath?

I can go for almost 2.5 min.

There are exactly zero mainchain privacy improvements on the horizon.

all the interest is in ecash and LN.

which is fine, but its either extremely difficult to use or custodial.

1st principles or GFY.

Silent payments are coming along nicely.

We already have lightning, fedi and cashu

Not too far off my man.

Ln is ok at best, I won’t use fedi or ecash for anything other then testing…

We shall see how good SP is and how many wallets integrate it.

My opinion privacy should be default and transparent only if wanted.

according to maxis,

they've been on the verge of solving the privacy problem...

*checks watch*

for over 7 years now

… this is why I won’t hold my breath… lmfao

Even Sats cant hold his breath THAT long

Your opinion of 100% private doesn't work or solve accounting problems that exist globally.

Bitcoin was designed to have a public ledger, solving the need for centralized ledger and control. That's the point. It solved the problem for the first time in history.

Monero is about trusting the code. There is no way to audit the trail of someone who just sent money to a 3rd party. It may be good for some things, but for audits, reserves, corporations, bank settlements, title/property transactions, etc...

All Bitcoin transactions must not be private, or these issues still exist.

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oh and when was the last time you personally audited the Bitcoin supply?

(and i dont mean just TRUST the output of gettxsetoutinfo)

The VAST majority of Bitcoiners also "trust the code"