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Tell me how would the world benefit if nazis had a platform to openly propagate their beliefs?

The main problem in your stupid argument is you are assuming somebody with an opposite opinion than yours is a Nazi, Therefore, to establish that premise and label someone as a Nazi, you will have to resort to a centralized state or platform like the one that cowardly nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m had (twitter), so that, under his biased and centralized point of view, anyone who does not agree with his ideas or narratives can be branded a Nazi and censored, that is, you support the censorship of ideological opponents and you put them so simplistically in the group of "the Nazis." This overbearing argument that goes against the First Amendment and individual human freedom in general. This is the factual proof of how poor, stupid, and authoritarian your argument is.

Free speech is for every one, you ignorant bastard, enemy of freedom !

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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

Preventing fascists from taking power is much more important than trying to not accidentally censor people who just happen to have some fascist views.

The people that have their racist and bigoted posts deleted wont suffer as much as the future victims of the fascists.

What is the benefit of giving free speech to fascists who want to oppress the people?

Erik Valium 11mo ago

You didn't understand a single word. I'm going to repeat it and simplify it for your basic understanding. If the state or a platform can determine who is or is not a Nazi based simply on their judgment and position of authority, then freedom for all is over.

The simple fact that a person with coercive power can determine if you are a Nazi according to their ideologies is negative for everyone, and in the case that they don't like what you think just because it goes against their agenda, they could label you a Nazi, and with that shitty shield, censor your opinion, therefore, anyone who contradicts the ruler in power can be labeled a Nazi and deprived of their freedom. And people as obviously ignorant as you, will applaud the state's vengeance on opponents, with the poor excuse only accepted by the weakest minds, that they are Nazis.

There is no censorship in #nostr, to anyone. Why are you here little retarded? If you like censorship go to that blue leftard app that censors every single post, because say that there are just 2 ge dera is “nazi”. The same stupid argument you present here.

dea2df5c... 11mo ago

Whether that person is a full blown fascist or not, if they repeat far-right talking points, that is going to promote and empower the fascists and recruit-brainwash new potential supporters of these ideas.

What if someone promotes:

ethnostates, racism, antisemitism, homophobia and transphobia, conspiracy theories, eugenics, anti-vax and alt medicine etc

Then is it really worth keeping this shit? Why the hell would you want to allow harmful ideas to be distributed and promoted to people?

Social media is now a powerful tool for brainwashing people, and we must not let it spread hate and ideas that make everyone's lives worse (except maybe the top 0.001% who benefit from people fighting over pronouns)

Erik Valium 11mo ago

Wow, you are really mentally retarded, you don't understand that if you give the power to determine who is nazi or not to the state, it immediately becomes a dictatorship? Are you so stupid as not to understand that??? What prevents that tomorrow from thinking like you are what is nazi? And they censor you, and they persecute you because you don't think like the government establishment or the state apparatus that is in power at that time. If this is not easy to understand for you, that means you just are an ignorant a leftard who is guided by empty emotions and not by reason.

There is no hate speech that validates government censorship, debate is the solution to extinguish fascist or communist ideas, extinguishing those virulent ideas like yours through debate and the use of reason is the only way to end their propagation, and not through the coercive power of the state or a corrupt regulatory entity.

You should read more and not talk so much nonsense.

dea2df5c... 11mo ago

We aren't talking about the state. We are talking about social media platforms and how it's important to keep hate from spreading

Erik Valium 11mo ago

The same, that’s why I mentioned the government OR a corrupt power behind the platform. If that person decide from one moment to other, that YOU are a threat and you are now a Nazi (even if you are not), that person, the owner of the platform, can censor you without giving any explanation, simply because you think differently than that person.

Say tomorrow thinking like you do is being a nazi, you are going to be censored just because the owner of an app decided to, not out of a sense of justice, not to try to avoid “hate speech”, but because your ideas do not go with the narrative that the designer of that app wants to promote. and that is when you, without having done anything wrong, but just giving your opinion, become a nazi, just because a single person decided that now you are a nazi.

Factual point for you, real Nazis did censorship their opponents or any person that had a different opinion than theirs, so you are promoting collectivist Nazi ideas here.

dea2df5c... 11mo ago

And then if you let them have their free speech, there will be more and more of them, until their party gets elected and democracy goes out of the window.

No harm is being done if you censor people posting about how much they hate (insert minority here).

You can criticize politicians now. Do you want to elect a fascist dictator who will send the anarchists and the free speech fans to camps, together with trans people and immigrants?

Because if you dont purge authoritarian ideas now, they will grow up and purge you instead

Erik Valium 11mo ago

Basically you are promoting Nazi censorship methodologies here dude. And the correct way to fight against authoritarians like you is FREE SPEECH because here with freedom I can take you to school and make obvious how wrong you are. Because your arguments are basically the same arguments that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini and alll the collectivist socialist used to incarcerate the opposition and different opinions. Basically you want to implement a fact region with that stupid ideas of yours, where somebody else can decide what is god or not.

You still fit get that debating ideas with freedom is the best way to eradicate authoritarian and racist ideas like yours.

Censorship is fascist, you are promoting that.