O also, the fiat system is a prime mover as you say.

It was big oil themselves that made a policy change to shift their income away from gasoline/combustion engine. They are set on having it come from plastics and petrochemicals.

We are not going to clean up plastics before we under undermine the power they are allowed to siphon from the fiat system.

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I get somewhat triggered by eco activists that think it was the people that caused the shift from gas-powered to ('green') battery powered, it's the same investment company just shifting tactics. They still hold the most sway over our politics as they have alway done.