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Wait, did you say No-KYC? How would that work with a VISA card?
I am also interested in that part.
You buy it in the app with lightning.
The card can be used online but currently not be added to apple or google pay in most countries. Coming soon with new EU partner.
Works very well for payments on amazon, ebay and gaming mostly.
Card itself is 100 % KYC free.
and how do you buy the card?
In the app..
You pay with sats.
Then add it to Google/apple pay..
It says international..🙅♀️

you guys just spraying everywhere "kyc free" yet you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
Enlighten me sifu
KYC = know your customer
I wanted to tell...
know your customer is an illicit activity, the aim of money is not to know your customer😉
When is soon😉?
And which partner in EU
Any info on that?
They announced ‚it coming soon‘ a few days ago 🤷♂️
I've heard about these Visa gift cards maybe a month ago from Samourai guy on some pod..
I've installed app, but no virtual visa gift cards were available for my region (US only after I changed the location in VPN).
Now it seems that it's available in Europe.
I'll give it a try. I'll buy visa gift card for 10 $ using sats. I'll see if it's gonna work at the merchant.
I'll let you know.
Ok, so I've tried it.
For those who are interested:
-download and install The Bitcoin Company app (use a burner email). The app is not foss, I assume. You get some sats (1000 sats) as a welcome greeting.
- buy Visa virtual international gift prepaid card using lightning (maximum is 700 US$). I got few sats as a reward.
It generates Visa prepaid card and challenge token which you'll need in later step to display Visa card number, expiry date, cvv code.
There's a warning saying that you need to disable VPN before viewing your card (I DIDN'T switch off my VPN and it worked anyways).
In the next step you'll enter challenge token and afterwards your visa number, expiry date and cvv is shown
- now use separate phone which is NOT LINKED to your identity to add visa card to Google/apple Pay wallet
- then I went to the local store and paid with google pay, it worked😉
Besides visa prepaid card you can buy Amazon gift cards and many more (for Amazon, coincard, foundation devices etc.)
Not sure how the business model of The Bitcoin Company works and who is the yield.
Cons:
-visa card is denominated in US$, so if you use it in Europe, you're charged 2 % conversion fee 😠
Thx. Nice!
So no KYC process involved and no name/address transfer anywhere. 🤙
Exactly.
When I was adding visa card to Google Pay, it asked for postal address and phone number, I entered random address and phone number.. it worked😉
Nice, congrats. So, seems like it's possible the whole shebang works without your real data, at least if you have a spare, non-ID'ed phone and are being very careful. I guess the yield comes from the unlucky masses who don't fit that pattern.
In any case, I'm not gonna try and outsmart them for a few thousand sats, but I also won't recommend against anyone willing to try. Stay safe, and good night.
