I agree. There are better options for value out there. I suppose it’s just my loyalty to buying Swiss made products.

I find Arc’teryx to be quite good as well. Snow Peak, a Japanese brand is one of my go-tos for outdoor items.

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Arcteryx yeah. Good for sure, but way too expensive. Snow peak is an interesting company. So i get an image of what you mean, thanks.

Agreed. I think they become worth it for the amount of use and if they’re made to last. WhichC so far, imo.

That's exactly my opinion for fjallraven...

I like their products, too. I mostly have their kånken which has served me well for many many years.