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Evan 2y ago

I’ve been on Bluesky for two days now. It’s nice, but kinda quiet. Just crossed 1000 users today.

Onboarding is simple, setting up a profile is easy, and finding people to follow is quick and intuitive. Past that it’s definitely lacking functionality in plenty of ways, but everything that is included so far works and is very smooth.

That said, it is completely lacking the spark of this community. Nostr felt special even before zaps, but now I can’t imagine a new social media experience succeeding without that functionality.

I’m excited to see how both grow and at one point was eagerly awaiting Bluesky, but Nostr’s organic evolution and speed of development with community influence has been unlike anything I’ve seen since the earliest days of the web.

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Trey Walsh 2y ago

Thanks for filling us in, it’ll be interesting to see as even on the nostr side there are seemingly dozens of platforms/interfaces to the protocol.

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boston wine 2y ago

But are there zaps

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Evan 2y ago

There are not.

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boston wine 2y ago

😞

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

#[4]​ wen zaps

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Matt Corallo 2y ago

Why are you asking me lol

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

you had blue in your name once ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Evan 2y ago

I was wondering that, too. 😂

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Gerardo 2y ago

I see their vision for using the @ protocol, but yea it is a bit quite when you start up. I can see as a hub for when bridges to other decentralized networks get built

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Evan 2y ago

If nostr doesn’t become that first. 😉

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Gerardo 2y ago

At the rate Nostr is growing, ngl i see Nostr getting there first

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𝚂𝚚𝚟𝚊𝚣𝚗𝚢𝚊𝚔 2y ago

Could you possibly upload a quick walkthrough of the app? I still haven’t seen one anywhere online

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Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

Thou shall bridge the two.

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royaoid 2y ago

mostr is the bridge

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jack 2y ago

Yes.

Both will bring ideas up that may cross pollinate.

But I def prefer the nostr dev model.

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paul 2y ago

everything is exciting again, things are possible again. we’re moving on. and it’s fucking great 🏴‍☠️

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

have you checked out simplex?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/simplex-chat-secure-messenger/id1605771084

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royaoid 2y ago

yep didnt like it

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

what didn’t you like about it?

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royaoid 2y ago

thats all i remember it was from a while ago but i will look at it again and get back to you, i really like where keet is going and found jami surprising

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

#[6]​ had the dev on the show recently, very interesting if it could replace Signal

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royaoid 2y ago

i found the 'opt out' podcast and see the latest episode on this, thanks you are awesome for introducing this to me and i will have a listen https://optoutpod.com

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royaoid 2y ago

keet is positioned to replace signal what are your thoughts on it?

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

can you send me a room link?

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royaoid 2y ago

no sorry there is some public ones around or you can test between devices, keet is good for sending files but the mobile app is a bit bugged at this stage

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

TOS are always interesting

https://keet.io/terms

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royaoid 2y ago

people say that, but its completely p2p and out if their control, likely just liability cover and it will be open source, holepunch which is 95% of the code already is

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royaoid 2y ago

out of

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Glenn 2y ago

Keet looks like it will be a great zoom replacement. SimpleX seems like a good Signal replacement.

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Jvm 2y ago

Keet is not opensource ? Jami is open source... Simplex hide meta data and it is open source

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Glenn 2y ago

The were talking about opening up holepunch, which is what keet is built on.

Utimately, it’s good to have choices.

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royaoid 2y ago

the nostr dev model is the real key to nostr

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royaoid 2y ago

is it time to ignore the spent cost on bluesky and go all in on nostr?

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jack 2y ago

Nah. They have a long runway

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Bc1qt1 2y ago

✈️

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royaoid 2y ago

damn, real spent cost, oh well we will know if that is a path or not soon, to me it is basically activitypub and nostr is a better idea than that

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Giacomo Zapparoni 2y ago

Why are you talking about using a website like it's an investment what is wrong with you people's brains

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dr.fred 2y ago

make it available on a computer too. not only on a spiphone

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FrailLeaf 2y ago

you like nostr because retards keep giving you money

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Evan 2y ago

I’m not sure how many zaps have been sent #[2]​‘s way, but I feel pretty confident in saying he’s sent out WAY more zaps than he’s taken in.

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

we need to change that

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signal_and_rage 2y ago

If everyone with a Lightning Address sends #[2] 1k sats, I think we’d win

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Ray Buni 2y ago

Zap included soon?

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arjwright 2y ago

Really need to figure out if I joined that waitlist or not. Just interested in seeing what it will become.

#[2]​, you’ve got a knack for (building, identifying, or pushing forward) protocols which connect and become platforms for ______

That BlueSky hasn’t quite caught the same heartbeat as nostr might actually be a good thing for what it may become. And yet, maybe in their youth, BlueSky and nostr will cross-pollinate

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Dominique Rose 2y ago

I'm trying to download blue sky, but there's several choices. Is this one the social network one? Maybe you can post a picture of the logo so I know which one to try. Thanks. Send me a thread.

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Evan 2y ago

It’s invite-only, so you need a code to register, but here’s the icon and iOS app link:

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6444370199

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maut1 2y ago

You wouldn’t happen to have an invite, would you?

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Evan 2y ago

Nope. 😕

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Giacomo Zapparoni 2y ago

"""organic"""

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soloninja 2y ago

I didn’t think it was released yet