If I had any hope for the fediverse, it is now gone.

Btw, these admins can read your DMs, delete your post, ban your account and even prevent you from interacting with any user on their server, They also have control over your data.

They are now collaborating with Meta. This will serve as a cautionary tale for decentralized protocols.

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Some sells their souls for money. Some don't.

This separates a man from a child.

One of the admins banned me for no reason and then started asking for Monero. It's going to get worse now.

Lol! Better sooner then later in my opinion.

TBH I did not follow up on fedivers, so sorry if it is a stupid question, but is it open-source?

It's also a protocol like nostr, but it uses different approach, you should search "ActivityPub" on Google you will get lot of resources.

Asking you for Monero to get your account restored?

Yes, the imbalance of power has created a lot of corruption within the fediverse and now Meta is exploiting that.

wow, much wow

Wait, was that you from a few months back? The instance was a little socialist enclave, right?

It happened one and a half years ago. It's not a very uncommon occurrence; I have heard of other cases like this as well. That was the reason why I left Mastodon.

Was it octodon?

I don't exactly remember the server name, but it was related to world affairs. After getting banned, I shifted to mstdn.social, which was better.

However, you come to realize that you are always at the mercy of some guy. 😂

Good, I was too lazy to look into it and now I don't need to.

No need tbh!

Same

Same lol

Man! This is sad. How do we know em 😩

I tried #Mastodon before I heard of #Nostr but I hated how whole instances would block each other. It was as bad as some of the mods power tripping over at #Reddit.

The #Fediverse doesn’t fix anything but Nostr does.

No need for a woke shittyverse when you have #nostr!

I ran my own Mastodon instance because of how little I trusted the instance admins. Almost as soon as I found Nostr I dropped Mastodon.

Same!

Dang, that’s sad

Nostr so far undefeated. I hope nostr forever stays true to the principals that Bitcoin has such as, open honest, opt in, decentralized, consensus, and so much more.

When I saw the name "Fediverse", I immediately said no. My gut feelings were correct here.

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What is fediverse?

Secure Scuttlebutt protocol looks promising as well

This is actually the only promising option we have right now, because this is the only protocol where servers or relays are optional, not mandatory.

I would prefer to return to Twitter rather than ever consider any Fediverse instance, Gab, or GETTR as viable options. The admins on Fedi, regardless of their ideology and beliefs, were always up to something shady.

Fedi has many problems but the one advantage it has is that anyone can create an instance so even if all of these admins get into bed with meta (which I don't think they are btw) activitypub lives on.

If you didn't already, I hope you joined another large connected instance specifically to publish this evidence to the fediblock hashtag so that your previous server would be defedded for this behaviour.

I'm not usually in favour of defedding but this is actually the perfect use case as it will be likely to force that admin's users to migrate. If you didn't publish this info I am concerned that they are probably shaking down other users.

You have a very optimistic point of view, I respect that & I hope you are right.

Btw, I have been using Mastodon from many years now. It has a diverse and high-quality user base. Love that.

However, there are some structural problems, such as the balance of power between users and server admin and their ability to isolate you from the network. But still 🤞

I think if we start thinking more on the abstract level, all social aggregators are offering their own take on the challenge of building #digital #tribes.

The social requirements are: 1) to easily put together people potentially interested in being together and 2) feed the individual user content that increases engagement and participation.

Walled gardens (facebook-like) offer strong content #curation and great networking and discovery features at the expense of being under absolute automatic censorship from above (plus monetization of user-generated content and metadata). Focus on giant #userbase, only possible with expensive infrastructure for automatic #moderation.

Enlightened-dictatorship gardens (mastodon-like, previously forums and IRC) typically rely on medium-to-heavy censorship, which comes from an oligarchy of moderators implementing a code-of-conduct, hopefully based on internal consensus. Focus is on internal sense of belonging. Schism tendencies move to instance-to-instance dynamics (e.g., current #meta #fediverse #drama). Risk of unpleasant echo chamber is as high as within the commercial walled gardens. The maximum number of content-generating user per moderator might lie between 50-100, so this solution does not perform well for high numbers.

However, if each garden has a well-identified definition, it is quite straightforward to attract and retain users that are interested in interacting with each other.

#nostr on the other hand is an interesting experiment because it is highly fluid, and the only higher hierarchy layer is given by the relays. However, this answers primarily to technical content propagation requirements, to my understanding. The problem with these systems (opposite to facebook) is that they suffer in terms of content discovery and social #networking, exactly because there is lack of well-defined grouping mechanism. Moreover, the weight of #moderation is totally on the shoulders of each individual, so it is very easy to get overwhelmed with content that is either unpleasant or uninteresting. However, there is hope that these challenges (which are not technical but social) could be solved beyond the protocol level, hopefully supported by distributed opt-in moderation/curation/discovery policies.

Fuckiverse

What Bitcoin and Nostr have shown us is that trusting some human is always bound to end up badly