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I am almost certain that it was the combination of sugar and artificial sweeteners. I was eating some 70% chocolate that probably had maltodextrin in it, and that is the stuff that causaes the problem. Either that, or a lot of sugar plus sucralose and/or acesulfame K.

The problem was way way worse with maltodextrin, Marks and Spencer's brand chips, even the "plain" salt and pepper have maltodextrin in them, and one pack of that stuff and I am in pain for a week.

I didn't just test it once, I tested it twice, because I am stupid. Second time around was the "unflavored" salt and pepper. Two weeks that I was hardly functional.

This time hasn't been so bad, which tells me either the dose of maltodextrin was too low, or it was the combination of Acesulfame K/Sucralose and a shit-ton of sugar combined. The problem wore off within 24 hours this time.

I'm not putting off the dentist visit for fun, I don't have the money to deal with it right now.

I'm just avoiding all artificial sweeteners preemptively now, and reading anything else closely to make sure they haven't put this vile garbage in.

Maltodextrin is the worst artifical sweetener there is. It makes me piss brown instantly, and now it absolutely is fingered for causing a long lasting tweak on my exposed dental nerves.

The dentist who said to leave that half broken lower right wisdom tooth in was sure there was nothing amiss with the whole tooth, that remained, and I wish I'd insisted on getting it out at that time when I had the chance, but on the other hand, I now know without question that artificial sweeteners have effects on nerves that nobody talks about.

I'm getting them all out as soon as I can, I want this anyway, as my lower jaw is crowded anyway, and it will greatly help my smile to have some more room down there.

I have extremely robust teeth, abnormally robust. In 40 years, the last 20 of which involved drinking a lot of acidic, sugary energy drinks, and still out of that only two cavities ever formed, and this wisdom tooth is just a freak, half of it died, the other half is fine.

Once the wisdom teeth are out of my mouth I'm sure that my dental issues are going to go away completely, as I have been religiously brushing and more recently added flossing and a non-alcohol containing mouthwash to my regime, and the only other problem I have at the moment is I think my brush is too hard and it's hurting my gums.

Jac 2y ago

It’s good to hear that it’s lower pallet. Less risk that way, but still important. The sugar caused flaring makes me think there is a bacterial culture isolated from your immune response and exposed to the flora in your mouth, along with what you’re eating and drinking. Proteins don’t feed bacteria and yeasts, but sugars and starches do, maltose in particular, it could be ordinarily beneficial anaerobic bacteria like lactobacillus in the wrong place.

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Loki 2y ago

This seems pretty likely to me. Possibly simply the types of sugars feeding the bacteria, causing the excess production of a metabolite that is toxic to the nerve.

You probably knew that most food grade citric acid is produced by feeding E.Coli certain types of sugars. I wouldn't be surprised if this is involved somewhere in it because I also suspect citric acid contributes, the combination of malts and citrates at the same time is probably optimal for the problem to be caused, which again also points towards an acid loving bacteria.

I've had this weird issue with certain foods, especially sweet ones, that yes, malt seems to be a common factor at least to some degree, that causes nerve pain in my jaw area in general, not just on the right side but on the left as well.

It is probably relevant also that when the malt has been caramelised (ie stout beer) there is no problem with this.