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I think abundance is relative. We live like kings compared to people from 1000 years ago but we still feel poor because there are people more powerful and more rich than us. When AI takes over, that dynamic will still exist, so there will still be the incentive for people to climb the ladder, however that looks. We can reach levels of unprecedented abundance, but it won’t matter because people dont just want to dominate their environment, they want to dominate each other. AI doesn’t change human nature.

HoloKat 2y ago

How does that tie into employment if the employer no longer needs your labor?

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nothenry 2y ago

If other people don’t need your labor, you will find a way to make your own. It’s not all negative, it could lead to unprecedented levels of human creativity.

HoloKat 2y ago

I know for a fact I can make my own labor 😆 but that doesn’t mean people will want it. One scenario that might be a case is where people just want things made by other people - but it’s not clear to me whether this would be making a living scenario

nothenry 2y ago

Yeah genuine creativity could be valuable, assuming humans are able to create things that AI can’t, but that’s still an open question.

Another thing to consider is that AI has to *work*. And for it to work, it needs two things: energy and data. And we could be a long way from AI being able to gather those resources on its own. So those will be jobs for the time being.