Nuance regarding Bretton Woods / Eurodollars most people don’t realize, from https://www.yesigiveafig.com/:

The Gold vs. Commodities Dynamic:

When the Bretton Woods system was still in place, the U.S. dollar was pegged to gold at a fixed rate of $35 per ounce. Other commodities, like oil, wheat, and copper, were priced in dollars but were not directly pegged to gold.

When you observe gold prices rising rapidly compared to other commodities, it indicates that gold was becoming scarcer relative to the U.S. dollar, while other commodities remained more plentiful or stable in their dollar pricing. This phenomenon aligns with the idea of a relative shortage of gold versus non-gold commodities in the dollar-denominated world.

Gold Price vs. Commodity Prices:

Rising Gold Prices: The rising price of gold compared to other commodities suggests that market participants were increasingly skeptical about the U.S.'s ability to maintain the gold convertibility of the dollar. As a hedge, they preferred to hold gold over dollars, driving up gold’s value.

Stable Commodity Prices: Meanwhile, other commodities didn’t see the same price surge because they were not directly tied to the convertibility mechanism. The demand for gold as a safe asset intensified, but the demand for commodities remained tied to actual economic use and trade (MWG Note: hence the importance of the population growth in this phenomenon in the 1970s while we have not seen proportionate commodity price increases/inflation even as gold rose sharply in the post-1999 period).

Shifting the "Fault":

Instead of seeing the collapse of Bretton Woods purely as a result of U.S. monetary policy (e.g., money printing or fiscal deficits), this perspective introduces a broader view:

Systemic Pressure: The Eurodollar market created additional, uncontrolled monetary expansion outside of U.S. regulatory oversight.

Global Imbalance: This external dollar creation led to a global imbalance where the international demand for gold (as a safe and stable asset) outstripped supply, precipitating a crisis of confidence in the dollar.

Conclusion:

Incorporating the empirical evidence of gold's price surge against other commodities strengthens the argument that the breakdown of Bretton Woods was not just about U.S. policy but also about the unintended consequences of global dollar liquidity. The Eurodollar market amplified claims on U.S. gold, causing a relative scarcity of gold to dollars, which became evident as gold prices diverged from other commodity prices. This nuance shifts part of the "fault" from purely U.S. actions to a broader systemic issue involving global financial innovation and liquidity mismatches.

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🟪 Bretton Woods Was a Rigged Game—And It Was Always Going to Fail

Bretton Woods wasn’t a real gold standard—it was a gold exchange standard, a fiat scheme where only the U.S. dollar was supposedly tied to gold. But the system was doomed from the start. It let the U.S. print money without consequence while other countries were forced to play along.

🔳 The Fatal Flaw

French economist Jacques Rueff saw the problem early:

• The U.S. could run massive deficits without real pain because foreign central banks reinvested dollars instead of redeeming gold.

• This meant monetary inflation without restraint, breaking the natural checks of a true gold standard.

• Austrian economists like Rothbard warned that without real convertibility, the system was just controlled demolition in slow motion.

🔳 The Eurodollar Illusion

Many blame the Eurodollar market for Bretton Woods’ collapse. But from an Austrian perspective, this was a symptom, not the cause. The real issue?

• The U.S. printed too much money to fund the Vietnam War and welfare expansion.

• Foreign central banks had to inflate their own currencies to avoid their dollar reserves losing value.

• This global inflationary spiral inevitably pushed gold higher as the market lost trust in fiat.

Gold’s divergence from other commodities wasn’t random—it was monetary insurance against government theft. The free market was screaming: “The dollar is dying.”

🔳 Why Bretton Woods Collapsed

The final nail in the coffin wasn’t global trade imbalances or banking complexity. It was the fundamental contradiction at its core:

• The U.S. wanted unlimited monetary expansion and a fixed gold price.

• But inflation makes gold undervalued at the peg.

• Eventually, foreign countries (especially France) started calling the bluff—demanding gold instead of holding devaluing dollars.

By 1971, Nixon had two choices:

1. Stop inflating (and crash the system), or

2. Kill the gold standard and go full fiat.

He took the easy way out. The result? The permanent inflation regime we live under today.

🟧 The Lesson? Fiat Always Fails

Now #Nostr they want a new #Bretton Woods—a “reset” of the global financial system. But that’s just fiat 2.0. The only real solution is what the free market has always chosen: sound money.

Gold worked for centuries until governments hijacked it. But #Bitcoin is doing what gold couldn’t—removing trust from the equation entirely.

The choice isn’t between fiat 2.0 and fiat 3.0. It’s between central control and actual freedom. 21 million or bust.

Great summary

Thanks for taking the time Bitman.

I don’t understand how the second point addresses the gold divergence from other commodities during that time frame. If non-monetary commodities around the world are not rising in proportion to gold, then is the position that fiat was preventing *deflation* from happening? This wasn’t just an American problem.

I don’t think this absolves the US of the issue- it adds another layer: everyone was printing money (yes- especially the US), but everyone was also expecting the US to honor a price of gold that didn’t make sense anymore. Makes the depegging make a lot more sense from the US perspective- you quit the illusion and allow the free market fiat value of gold to float for everyone.

Not saying it’s a good thing, just learned additional context.

The gold-commodity divergence wasn't about preventing deflation - it was gold reasserting its unique monetary role while other commodities remained industrial in nature. When people lose faith in fiat, they flee first to historical money (gold), driving its price higher than regular commodities.

You're right this wasn't just a US problem - the entire Bretton Woods system created global inflation as foreign central banks accumulated dollars rather than demanding gold.

While ending the artificial $35 peg was inevitable, an Austrian alternative would have been redefining the dollar at a higher gold price reflecting market reality, then maintaining convertibility at that new rate. This would have acknowledged past inflation while preserving future monetary discipline.

The divergence wasn't evidence the gold standard failed - it was evidence it was working correctly as a warning system. The failure was abandoning gold's discipline rather than heeding its warning.

I think we’re largely in agreement here.

However the Austrian alternative to depegging completely merely would have kicked the can down the road. The overextending / Eurodollar part of the problem still exists at a practical level. Gold, because of its physical properties, just wasn’t fast enough as settlement for modern times. Sure, the US definitely took advantage of it- but literally anyone could have (and many did as well).

So yes, Bretton Woods doomed to fail from the beginning. But likely not in the ways even the US foresaw at the time of the agreement.