Replying to Avatar Trey Walsh

It’s a common myth I see touted in the Bitcoin community that going down the bitcoin rabbit hole will make you less of a progressive.

For me that’s not true at all. It did, however, raise my awareness and skepticism of centralized authorities like the federal government, the Fed, etc in terms of handling our money and given too much control to breach our privacy in any instance. I think it is true that more often than not progressives don’t push back on centralized government authority and interference enough, and look to often to the federal government for support of the community and social values we care about.

Basically I went from not questioning centralizing enough to fighting for decentralization in as many instance as make sense — this is progressive in the sense of greater individual/community control, more democratic, more with everyone playing by the same rules.

Do you want a world ruled by centralized authorities in every instance, or a world where rules without rulers and decentralized protocols usher in a new era or freedom, liberty, and harmony? This is the message I’m hoping to spread to more progressives. And in terms of educating on money, federal governments, privacy, and decentralization I think nostr:npub1a2cww4kn9wqte4ry70vyfwqyqvpswksna27rtxd8vty6c74era8sdcw83a , nostr:npub17u5dneh8qjp43ecfxr6u5e9sjamsmxyuekrg2nlxrrk6nj9rsyrqywt4tp & nostr:npub1sn0wdenkukak0d9dfczzeacvhkrgz92ak56egt7vdgzn8pv2wfqqhrjdv9 are some of the best to speak to progressives on these topics without getting bogged down in ideological warfare

I grapple with this a fair bit.

Globally I see bitcoin as far more progressive than what ever we currently have.

Nationally I think redistribution is important and hope this can be achieved on top of bitcoin in some way. Ie. Building roads that everyone can use, my favourite type or redistribution.

Then I seem to contradict myself and ask the question how do smaller states fair under this new standard? Do they become more vulnerable to exploitation and further behind? The only way the don't is with a global presence commited to act in these instances.

Then is redistribution not important at the global level too? How would this look?

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Good points.

Not enough people in bitcoin like to talk about any sort of taxation, support, services, public goods, etc. we can have bitcoin and live in reality too.

And also that’s why I like to say we need to throw out this system and establish a new one THEN we can maybe start to try to address some of these things? And bitcoin can be an effective tool, but some issues of power, greed, the human condition, mental illness, etc are different stories…

Agreed the entire thing needs rebuilding.

During the collapse/exit event though it's hard to see wealthy nations/individual actors not getting out first and consolidating further. Creating an entire new class, the Bitcoin class and the others just pass around their change(sats - or fractions of sats). Maybe then everything else is so devalued in comparison to Bitcoin that the others class can start again on a fairer standard.

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