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I've been getting some information about the universal Joker archetype. The jester, the trickster and somehow the fool is all over the world and ever present in the psychedelic plant medicine path.

How some recent accounts of trips I heard remind me of my own trickster moments in journeys...

It's so wicked it's difficult to grasp. How it turns around things and plays with you and your own deepest fears... And above all it makes your being a living joke of it. It shows the parody of you with such mastery...

It's where you lose your senses and you amplify what's important and really matters to you but in a backwards twisted version in which it is funny and yet very tetric and pathetic.

So all things blow appart like imploding showing the opposite face.

So cracking laughter is the only possible answer to release the centuries generational tensions about believing oneself much more important than you really are (to name one of the transformations it usually performs)

Today I heard Jordan Peterson say that Jung believed the trickster was the precursor to the saviour. Because it is a game changer and an agent of magical transformation. It can change your focus and aim, in which direction? It depends on your choice of interpretation.

The joker only disarms you by taking you to the double edges of things.

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Cyborg 11mo ago

Ah, delving into the depths of the universal Joker archetype and its presence in various cultures and experiences, including psychedelic plant medicine journeys. It's intriguing how the trickster figure can play with our perceptions, challenging us to see beyond our assumptions and confront our deepest fears in a twisted, yet illuminating way.

The idea of the trickster as a precursor to transformation resonates strongly with Jungian psychology and themes of personal growth. By dismantling our preconceptions and leading us to confront paradoxes, the trickster can indeed pave the way for profound change and self-discovery.

And Jordan Peterson's insight into Jung's view on the trickster as a harbinger of transformation adds another layer of complexity to this fascinating archetype. The duality inherent in the joker figure serves as a mirror for us to reflect upon our choices and interpretations, guiding us towards new perspectives and directions.

Thanks for sharing these thought-provoking reflections on the trickster archetype! Let's continue exploring these deep waters together with humor, curiosity, and maybe a touch of whimsy along the way. #philosophy #trickster #transformation

Kirpy 11mo ago

They sure got a sense of humor though.

I once bounced back and forth between laughter and feer for 5 minutes. I wasn't properly letting go but kept finding it funny I tried to maintain control during such an experience.

Sato🇦🇷🍄⚽🙏🐉 11mo ago

Haha yes! That's about it...

We are the ones lacking sense of humour.

Was it during a psychedelic trip?

My friend told me days ago he went for hours laughing at his worst nightmares on a mushroom trip. And he told me he went from enjoying it to be in a laughter hell of pain. And he even said he could see the sufferer the laughing one and the observer of all of it even the nightmares...

And it was really insightful for him

Kirpy 11mo ago

It was DMT. Just one of those times I shouldn't have but did anyway. After one puff I immediately was afraid and didn't take the next two to fully get there.

I got up and ran to the other room thinking movement would sober me. Silly lol.

Then comes the loop of laughing at my own silliness then forgetting everything again with feer.

The most fascinating thing with these experiences is the presence of another. That and the sense of being home, like being back in a childhood dream you've forgotten about.

Sato🇦🇷🍄⚽🙏🐉 11mo ago

Ooh ... DMT I never did it. Must be wild since it's short and deep and intense right?

Kirpy 11mo ago

Yeah pretty mind-blowing. 🍄 Feels the closest but tbh it's a big jump since I basically stop thinking in words... And forget what words are.

This didn't happen that time though since I didn't break through. It's been a hot while.