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Not sure if she makes wages. Usually servers here in the US only get paid around $2 an hour, so paychecks usually 0 because the tips offsets them.

Servers literally live of their tips 😂

TheGrinder 1y ago

I thought there was a minimum wage in the US and didn't they recently raise that? I thought it was something like $12-15 hour? If she doesn't get any wage, fair enough but even then $80/shift isn't bad. I've worked decades in this business and then dropped it after COVID. Fun fact, I was getting 10 Deutsch mark an hour 30 years ago and today the minimum wage in catering is €13/h. So an average shift will net you ~60 EUR plus tips which are basically not worth mentioning these days.

So yeah, I'm not working for €13/h with 30 years of experience, hotel training, graduation as restaurant professional and thousands invested in my Cocktail trainings and certificates. I make more money staying at home.

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Lou 1y ago

It really depends of the state. I’m a waiter and I get 2.15 an hour 😂 not sure if she gets a wage tho, most likely not (hooters).

And yeah, it is actually pretty crazy what waiters/tresses can make in a 4 hour shift. Something I leave with 200$ on a weekend of 5 hours. But then again, is a gamble. Sometimes you make good and sometimes you don’t.

Don’t tell me 13 euro? In Venezuela I worked for $2 a day for full 8 hours 🤣🤣🤣 countries currencies are fucked

TheGrinder 1y ago

I didn't know that you also work in catering. 💪

That wage though, makes me understand why Americans tip 20% but I think it's ridiculous to expect anyone to almost work for free because "you get tips". Tips can vary a lot and that's not a "secure income".

Crusty 👨‍💻 1y ago

That's a steal though.

banjo 1y ago

Couple thoughts--

First off, people should be tipping at least 15% (20% I would say should be average for good service)...

Having said that, she's working as a waitress...and at Hooters. That's not something I'd call a "career", so compensation shouldn't be expected to be on a par with a programmer, teacher, plumber or stockbroker.

Want better pay? Invest in yourself so that you can add value to society...simple as that.

TheGrinder 1y ago

That's an American thing. 10% is standard in Europe. That's why we love American clients 😉

banjo 1y ago

Maybe, but my standard tip is 20%--if you're a good waiter, entertain me so that my dining experienced is enhanced, you're likely to get 25%.

If you're a bad waiter, you'll get 15%...anything less that...well you'd have to "earn" that somehow by being spectactularly bad...

Crusty 👨‍💻 1y ago

That part I don't understand. Why do you have to have a "standard" 20% tip? They shall get the money their job worth, and anything above worth a tip in my opinion. Maybe I don't see something.

Lou 1y ago

But what is it “worth”? I guess is a cultural standard and it varies from each person.

Based on my experience, some people don’t like to have conversations, they just want a fast service, others want to talk, others want to not be interrupted while eating at all.

Based on those “metrics” my service tip worth would vary from person to person. It is subjective, thus a very subjective (and random) reward for my work.

I guess some people did the math and 15% to 20% is that what they came with for a “standard” tip, some people will leave less and some people more but it usually evens out.

Crusty 👨‍💻 1y ago

Hmm, interesting opinion!

Maybe I would separate serving cost from other entertainment costs. So serving cost shall be included everywhere in the price, because you get served. The entertainment cost fully depend on individual preferences. That could be the tip.

Also would be interesting to see the waiters pay per country compared to standard tip and other general job pays like in McDonalds, or working in a supermarket.

Maybe we would see, that employers give less to their waiters proportionally to the standard tip in that country.