Hmmm...

I'm slightly confused, as is usual. 🤣

I don't know what you mean by "a group state."

While there might not be a need for an owner, I would want that ability in a private group so that I could moderate who has read/write privileges.

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In a Private group (especially MLS):

- there are clearly defined Admin

- there is a group state, in the sense that if you're not up to date with it, you can't encrypt messages any longer

So it's not really appropriate for one-off communication.

In Big-Tech land, the third party server is the hidden owner of the communication channel between 2 profiles that "DM" each other. Here we don't have that. So either you create a Private Group (with admin etc) or you send one-off messages that, imo, we should better call "Mail".

OK. Yes. That makes sense except for the fact that... Aren't all data packets basically mail, then?

Please don't waste your time on my faffing about with this. I'll understand it eventually. 😅

Sure.

But one is me sending a letter to your mailbox (with a service that relays the letter).

The other is me and you talking a private room, that we both have an access code to, but that ultimately somebody (admin) controls the access codes for.

Hmmm... Yes.

And ultimately, there's a lot of stuff happening in the background to make it work in either case.