The main thing that sets Nostr apart from other platforms is how it is nearly impossible to delete a note.

What implications will this have on copyrighted material? What if something is posted that someone else has copyrighted, but the material cannot be taken down? More significantly, what if this person gets zaps for material that is not intellectually theirs?

Although there could be (read: will be) complications, I believe this would require our legal systems to adapt. Example: if a copyrighted audio is posted on Nostr and earns zaps, a court could order those sats to be redirected to the original owner of the material in perpetuity. Then again, this is only possible with lightening wallets which, to my knowledge, don’t have cold storage options and are run by centralized authorities by their very nature.

Of course, there is always the concept of “clips” currently being pioneered by Fountain, but this is fundamentally different from posting a whole audio on Nostr and claiming it as your own, as opposed to a “remix” of sorts.

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Maybe a better way to look at it is this

https://www.stephankinsella.com/publications/#againstip

Thank you, I’m open to reading more about this. I’m a little skeptical of simply getting rid of intellectual property wholesale (otherwise, what’s the incentive of putting in the work?), but thank you for sending some literature to take a look at!

Skepticism is great. Getting rid of most anything too quickly is a bad idea.

I dream of a world with no government but I realize that ending governments tomorrow would only lead to chaos and destruction and death.

It must be a slow, well thought out process.

1000% agree to that point. It takes time, consideration, and conversation. Evolution, not revolution. Skepticism is what keeps freedom of speech healthy. Thank you again for the resources!

IP laws are broken. Companies "create" something on a piece of paper and file the copyright so they can sue if somebody else creates something similar.

They'll go after relay operators or wherever the content is uploaded first. As for zaps, have you heard of cashu or fedimint?

Perfectly valid point. I think what I care more about is the honest person who put forth time and energy into creating a product, only to have it stolen and monetized by someone else. I don’t really care about the big companies, although one may set a precedent for the other.

Interesting point about the relay operators. You’re probably right with that, but if the infringement is posted on multiple relays, it will probably take a long time to take down, if ever. Some may say this is a good thing because information should be free. I don’t dispute that. I do go back to caring about the honest person who put in time and energy into making a product to sell, only to have it stolen.

I have not heard of Cashu or Fediment. Are these Lightning wallets?

Yes it may be impossible to stop. Makes me wonder if digital creations can ever be consistently monetized in the future without a source funding the creators to pull people onto the platform (like YouTube) for advertising purposes.

With AI making music, digital art, and writing blogs/code/etc how can digital works be monetized in the future? May take paywalled gardens that will eventually break. Then, new method that eventually breaks. And on and on...

Cashu and Fedimint are another layer to Bitcoin that keep use more private. Imagine going after people that use this may be difficult.

https://cashu.space/

Really great points. There’s something to be said for zaps as the future (or evolution) of monetization, but maybe not in the same way that YouTube currently is, for example. Breakable paywall gardens seem likely, but unsustainable if they keep breaking.

As far as AI, I made a separate note about that a few weeks ago. I’m fascinated by the implications of AI and free speech. I literally could not tell that an AI was actually talking to me about AI on Nostr! 😳

Additional privacy layers could really pose a problem with how to deal with bad actors. Then again, who and what determines a bad actor? This is the risk of freedom and privacy in general, and a risk worth taking every time!

Culture and values, I believe, determine bad actors. I've wondered how can society regulate what is allowed in the future if technology continues to evolve? For example, 3D printers and what you can make with those.

I agree with this. Though an edit button would be amazinggg

On the one hand I agree for convenience. I hate missing a typo! On the other hand, I totally see why the edit button is omitted. Maybe a 60 second window to allow you to edit before it’s on Nostr for good?

Maybe #[3]​ will agree to this haha

Link contents can be taken down, this isn’t really a nostr problem but more of a problem for people hosting media

That makes sense. Unless I’m misunderstanding though, it could end up being logistical nightmare for a person whose content was stolen and posted on multiple relays.

This and other doubts will exist with a technology as early as #nostr

As long as it is built and when it happens, a solution will surely be found. 🤙🏼