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I had to study it as part of business administration.

Keyensian a broader term, which is also locale based, using macro and micro datasets to guide their decision making process. It's a lot of market data and research, qualitative and quantitative. Just because one fails, it doesn't mean that they all fail, because the modelling is somewhat unique to that territory or state.

Keyensian is mainly government intervention but it's also due to that every recognised country has a government that not only manages one aspect(finances) of society, but all of it(law and order, national security, pension, nature, land and environmental protection, education, health etc.)

Central Banks should remain impartial and independent, prudent and slow in their decision making. This builds their reputation and credibility as an institution and improves their bonds (issuance of their debt) ratings and demand for that debt instrument. Think Switzerland bonds vs Zimbabwean bonds.

Merchantilsm fails, Austrian fails and keyensian fails. Keyensian is however adaptable and locale based, which is why it's all over.

Merchantilsm is Adam Smith era models where one state economy booms because it extracts another's economic power. How England gets wealth through extraction of wealth from other states. It follows imperialism or resources by conquest.

This fails because the pot is fixed, and unless you conquest or loot, you are unable to expand. There's also the problem where in order to expand the pot, you need to spend the pot, and if any failures occur, or mistakes, it can lead to a downfall of the empire.

Austrian? Look at Argentina.

But that's macro modelling level stuff.

I love economics, it's one of my favourite subjects at uni because it's not about keyensian or whatever model, but rather the study of systems.

Economies can be everything from how households or people interact with each other to government central banking and inter-state systems. There's so many economies if you think about it. I mean you've done micro

Thanks for this. I have been busy with work and not on Nostr much for a few days, but a few thoughts I'd be interested in learning more on.

Is economics a science? Philosophers of science have struggled for some time to define what science is. One idea put forth to separate science from pseudo science is that a science must be falsifiable. That is there must be a way in which it can be tested and shown to be false by empirical evidence and reason. When I read your first paragraph on Keynsianism failing occasionally it made me think of this. One of the ways I struggle with socialists and free market folks a lot is when their is an example of their system of choice failing they simply say, "The implementation was wrong". In some ways I sympathize, but on the other hand, it seems a way to dismiss evidence that does not support our preferred system. From where I sit now this critique could be applied to any economic system, but maybe you can correct me.

I have been wondering if Austrian vs. Keynsian split is essentially an epistemological split similar to the rationalist vs. empiricist split in philosophy. The Austrian's argue from 'first principles' similar to the 'a priori' of the rationalists and Keynsians argue from sense and experience similar to the empiricists. Is this a sensible way of framing the differences?

Thank you for your post and insights.

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You guys are off the rocker. If Keyenes was right about anything at all, we wouldn't be having economic collapses and the advent of bitcoin. Bitcoin was made because Keynesian economists are living in fairy tale land than inflation is good or necessary. It is neither. And the adoption of bitcoin is proof. If you are a Keynesian out of ignorance, you are a shitcoiner. Keynesian economics is the foundation and essence of fiat and shitcoins. No disrespect to you guys, it's just a false economic worldview. If Keyenesians were right, there'd be no need for bitcoin, there'd be no adoption of bitcoin, there'd be no economic collapse. But we see ALL fiat currencies go to zero. It's pathetic. Unimaginable how blind you must be to give any credibility to Keynesian economics, while watching bitcoin soar from 0 to 100k in 15 years, when bitcoin is the antithesis of Keynesian hogwash economic theory.

Like you guys must be joking

I may be off my rocker, but I believe, I am working out of honest desire to know. Economics is not at all my field of specialization, but I'm curious about it. From the standpoint of so called 'shitcoins', I use BTC or gold as my units of account to denominate my net worth. So maybe I am an Austrian by default with my investment choices, but I am curious to know the truth here.

My point on the epistemological nature of the debate was to say that these are just two completely different economic worldviews. My point on the economics being a pseudo science was to say that neither Keynsian nor Austrian economics are falsifiable by the empirical evidence. Because whenever I see evidence brought against either, the proponents of each simply point out that it was implemented incorrectly.