Nostr Web Client

Two paths:

1) Work with other people, decide on a good path forward, go together down that path for maximum compatibility

2) Believe you are the smartest person in every room, reject other proposals without any deep reasoning or discussion about them, and do it your way as fast as possible and roll it out as far as possible to force other clients to do it your way since you "beat them to it". Then argue from the position of "it's working" and "we have 50,000 edits already".

You took path (2). It is indistinguishable from an embrace-extend-extinguish attack on nostr. I don't think any protocol can defend against this kind of attack. It is why Microsoft was so successful at crushing open technologies in the early days.

Since edits are not just an additive feature, but a fork of kind-1 and it's very meaning, all we can do is not implement PR 1090 and let the nostr community naturally fork.

So that is what we are doing. IMHO edits will be Amethyst only, and eventually Amethyst users will either recognize the futility of fake edits, or they will become a separate community.

If other devs worked together and decided that PR 1090 was the right path forward, then we could all go there. But the devs are spread out into very different opinions on how edits should happen.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Amethyst currently has 4 ways to "edit" a post. I coded 4 others that didn't work well. I don't "believe I am the smartest person in the room". I just coded them all and gave it to the users. It's their choice. I am just reacting to them. In fact, my preferred way of editing didn't work.

I can wait for you all to code it and check for yourselves. What I can't do is to have people saying "it doesn't work" or "it breaks Nostr" when I have shipped for MONTHS now and it not only clearly work but doesn't break anything.

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Mike Dilger ☑️ 1y ago

Do Amethyst users all know that the edit only works for other Amethyst users? If so then it is not so bad.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Lots of events and custom tags on Kind 1 (like appraisers, for instance) only show to other Amethyst users. So, the general expectation is that many things they do on Amethyst won't show up anywhere else. Here and there we see somebody surprised about it, but they get it pretty quickly.

I don't think it is a good idea to ever communicate that clients show the same thing because it is almost never true. Especially these days that each client has a completely different way to assemble the main feed.

I definitely encourage my own users to use other clients and see the difference for themselves.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

* zapraisers.