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2014-2015 eu was trying to figure out how its handling immigrants. Finland was one telling greek and other border nations to let immigrants in and how we should work together so we could protect out lives and human rights.

So, i would suggest letting them in. Division in society will happen anyway so why not to do right thing. After border is open for humanitarian efforts, then i dont know. It depends how other countries would like to handle this without forgetting why we act like we did in 2014-2015.

Simple 1y ago

Thing is. We could keep our border close but that wont stop russia using minorities as an weapon. When its summer and if russia wants so (they can limits minorities rights, make them 'criminals', make them feel threated, etc) there will be situation where we are defending our borders with guns against tens of thousand unarmed peoples or we figure out how we can help them.

So whatever its organize transportation and taking care of immigrants with eu or building camps and immigration processing centers, its way better than what we do now (what really is nothing than trying to say no)

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Simple 1y ago

I must say and this is just what i think (read: feel 😆). Using immigrants its not only about causing division in target society. Its causing division between countries. This is a war for the hearts of the people of the middle eastern countries, peoples of the african, asian, even russian etc... And we are really losing that badly, being losing that for a long time. We are giving their leaders possibility to use religion and other thigs as an tool to control. We did that, becouse we are appearing alot as an evil by speaking about our great values, telling others how to live their lives, controlling others and yet we are just selfish mf, who likes to speak but not act.

Jakub 1y ago

Well, in my opinion, Russia is using immigrants as a weapon, weapon against EU states economy, to weaken them and strike in a moment they will have to solve a crisis caused by accepting too huge amounts of immigrants.

Accept the fact, Finland and EU have their limits, territorial, economical, others. Therefore cannot accept anyone sent there by russian propaganda. Refusing them is an effective use of russian weapon against them.

And I do not think we are the evil because of acting like this.

Simple 1y ago

I 100% see your point of view. I even said russia using them as an weapon. I dont really belive that our economy would be fucked without fiat money, so in my mind we have alot resources, will and ability to use that is different.

I think we should accept the fact that current nationstate model we are running is weapon against our liberty and freedom, thats the fear we see. Its limits our capabilities fight with love, becouse darkness is running in its veins.

Its not fault of immigrants, its our fault thay we dont live like we talk.

Lefting peoples die onto your doorstep is evil. Peoples choosing to do so arent all bad, but act always is. Our reasons could be sinister and tought to be good, but in real world theres no things like better or worst and in a way we are all equal in the eyes of nature. So no better culture, no single reason you to not sharing and helping your human friend in trouble. We are not superior and we dont have self preclaimed power and wisdom to do what ever it takes to survive and say to others that they do not have same rights.

Im sometime too toxis and filled with hate so just saying: For me we can disagree and its all just peace and love 🫂