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Finding that threshold level (and a way to express it) where people are let in IFF they provide more value than they cost to a society over the entire duration of their stay is definitely not an easy circle to square, and it does get made into some stupid black and white dichotomy by most commentators.

It reminds me of the idiots that were smugly asking leaders during the COVID scare "how many deaths are acceptable?" as if anyone at all dying of disease is grounds to completely halt an economy.

Sophists, the lot of them.

Laeserin 0mo ago

I think Germans are generally okay with letting everyone in, even if they are a net-loss for society, so long as they aren't homicidal maniacs or rapists.

It took them nearly 10 years to come to an agreement that they probably shouldn't take in the homicidal maniacs and rapists, so I consider it progress that most Germans are like,

We should probably not let the head-choppers in.*

* Unless they had a hard childhood and are very sorry and promise to not do it again. Pinky-swear.

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Laeserin 0mo ago

Well, I should say, they were generally okay with it, until they woke up one morning, after the 104729 head-chopping and were like,

Foreigners bad. All foreigners out.

That's how politics always works, here. 100% nonsense, in one direction. Then 100% nonsense in the precise opposite direction.

Laeserin 0mo ago

It's like with energy policy.

Turn off everything except solar panels and windmills and natural gas.

*Economy crashes, Putin invests mega-profits invading Ukraine*

Woops. Okay... that was maybe suboptimal. Nobody could have forseen that these problems might arise.

Let's go dig for coal.