Subnostr

Quick thoughts on NIP-95 in no particular order:

- There isn’t anything anyone can do to prevent someone from putting files on a nostr relay. It doesn’t matter what you think of the idea.

- NIP-95 does not belong on the majority of relays (perhaps all) that exist today. If it is ever adopted it will be by specialized relays (likely operated by existing http image hosts) who are willing to give up efficiency for some interoperability gain. I think it is naive to write off the entire spec because it doesn’t fit in to our idea of nostr today.

- Relay operators deserve notice before something like this is released in a major client. I know that won’t be possible forever, but while our ecosystem is still small it wouldn’t take much to get the word out. I think a lot of the reason for the controversy (client rendering aside) is that files were “forced” upon relay operators before most of them even knew NIP-95 had been proposed.

- Open source relay implementations should probably be a bit more selective about the type of events they accept with how quickly nostr is evolving. There may be plenty of other event kinds in the future that you also do not want to store for one reason or another.

Ezofox 2y ago

If binary data is stored on relays I wonder how this would play with copyright content and take down notices lawfully speaking. Relay operators would then need management tools to find and filter such content and have them removed if needed.

I also read from the NIP that it could be implemented to store in a NoSQL DB for large documents or on disk for files.

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Mazin 2y ago

For sure, and all big public file hosts are already using these tools. They are definitely best suited to operate these special purpose relays.

Rimbaud 2y ago

Great points! - It seems to me that it's likely that the relay operators could assign admin privileges to a select group of individuals to run a given 'cloud relay,' though I image now we'd be discussing a subscription or paid service of some sort, but if this were the case, a group of a dozen of so people could run a pretty robust relay around the clock to respond at need to critical events. But the data itself would be literally roving about the globe based on the cost of available processing capability and storage capacity.