i have always been opposed to marxist stuff... when i was 18 i stayed at an "anarchist bookshop" out the back and i was totally disinterested in the socialist shit, and the people were so fucking tedious. i did like some of the left leaning stuff like Peter Lamborn Wilson (hakim bey) and the situationists, who focus on media and manipulation, but i didn't bump into the rothbard stuff until 2010 after learning about it through alex jones interviewing Ron Paul. at that point i became more hostile towards marxist philosophies.

it's just illogical, that's the part that really annoying about it, you can't have a debate with them, they just act like a bunch of pigeons on a chessboard.

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There's nothing logical about it because debating assumes good faith from both sides in their quest for the truth. Marxists do not have that, because they do not operate in good faith. This isn't a criticism of Marxism as a set of ideas per se (though it would be deserved), but a criticism of the people who keep espouse such ideas and their quality.

These are people who will not rest before they fill every valley and flatten every hill in the name "muh equality", they will not rest before reducing everyone to the level of the yeast that they are.

They are motivated by hatred of anything they perceive as better, wealthier, more beautiful, thinking that it was stolen from them.

"I'm ugly because he's beautiful. I'm poor because he's rich". There's no debating this because this is a revolt of the lower orders of life against the beautiful and well turned out.

yeah, like mises said, it's a philosophy of envy, and i'd just add it's based on pride and narcissism. socialists are almost all narcissists. toxic waste.