I talked about stolen *seeds*.

A passphrase can be memorizable, you can always store it securely in a password manager, and offline backup are safer since the format is not easily identifiable as is the case with seeds.

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That's the problem: if you can memorize the passphrase, it's generally easy to brute force. If you can memorize 12 words, just do that. If you want a 24 word seed, store the first twelve, then memorize the second.

So far the argument has been that paraphrases are great for og Bitcoiners. That's fine, but they can figure out a way to work inside a system that doesn't burn the next billion Bitcoiners

its not hard to memorize 24 words + seed phrase,people have no idea how good memory is

although funny enough I can't mention this without a swarm of bitcoiners who say iTs NoT a GoOd iDeA tO mEmOriZE tHiNgs.

like bruh you do you if you don't want extra backups that can't be confuscated, but I lived through an era where police in Canada confuscated multisig wallets and they lost access to it.

Cmon, it's very hard to memorize 30+ random words. There are better ways to accomplish your goal

I thought the same until I tried it. its incredibly easy. you just do a memory palace / story technique.

this is a very misunderstood thing about humans