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Celata 1y ago

This is the logical proof that disproves transgenderism, aka gender ideology.

According to transgenderism, if your gender is different from your sex then you are transgender.

Also according to transgenderism, gender is not the same thing as sex.

Therefore everyone's gender is different from their sex.

Therefore everyone is transgender. You, me, everyone.

Alternatively, transgenderism is not correct, and gender is the same thing as sex.

In that case everyone's gender is the same as their sex because it is the same thing. Therefore nobody is transgender.

It is not possible for some people to be transgender and some people not to be transgender according to the definition of transgender.

The whole of gender ideology is built on this idea of gender (identity) which can supposedly be different from your sex, and that's what makes you transgender. This shows the flaw in that argument. You can use the term "gender identity" instead of "gender" in the above proof, and "biological sex" or "sex assigned at birth" if you prefer, it makes no difference.

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Pepe NOSTRos 1y ago

You are arguing eloquently with crazy. Won't work. They nuts. Proper name is gender dysmorphia.

dysmorphia

noun

Any of various psychological disorders whose sufferers believe that their body is wrong or inadequate, such as anorexia, bulimia, and muscle dysmorphia ("bigorexia")

Dysmorphia is a kind of crazy. Its in the book of shit we call crazy as a disorder. Dunno why we even argue with them. Just pat pat yes yes you are a turtle. Now stop screaming and banging your head please.

Celata 1y ago

What you're talking about is transsexualism which is based on a psychiatric diagnosis of what used to be called gender identity disorder (up to the DSM-III) and is now called gender dysphoria. This is a very rare condition (rarer than heterochromia, or having eyes of different colors) related to body dysmorphia, which is a mental illness as you say. These people (transsexuals) try to escape the very negative feelings they have about their sex by trying to change their bodies and present as live as the opposite sex.

The vast majority of "trans" people however are transvestites. They have rebranded transvestism as transgenderism and use the same hormones (rarely also surgery) as transsexuals, but their motivation is quite different: they gain pleasure (called euphoria) from cross dressing and imagining themselves as the opposite sex. Many of them (autogynephiles) are sexually aroused by the idea of themselves as the opposite sex. They are usually heterosexual while transsexuals are homosexual.

In order to try to gain social acceptance for their transvestic fetish, the transvestites essentially invented a religion whereby they could garner sympathy for the mental illness experienced by transsexuals (which they don't have) by claiming the idea of a gender identity being something undetectable by science (like a soul or a chakra) which can potentially be different from your actual sex. According to this ideology, it is the ineffable gender which makes you a man or a woman, not your actual sex (hence all the slogans of "trans women are women", "trans men are men", etc). The proof above shows that even if you believe that this gender spirit exists (which is a leap of faith and unprovable), the definition that transgenderists give of the criteria to actually be transgender is flawed.

Pepe NOSTRos 1y ago

Just stop. I know all the weasel words too.

Kid was a trans activist. I have spoken at their struggle sessions. I currently help counsel some of the victims as they recover their senses and lives. Not all have survived.

I have been through the trenches, the tears the suicide attempts after transition, the drug abuse, the confusion, the fear, the sense of deeper separation from society than what they fled.

The hard part has been convincing them not to hate those that failed them or encouraged self mutilation. They and their families (those that still have) are big mad. Lawsuits and civil suits and requests for criminal inquiry are underway worldwide.

You may be a good person but this is a deadly serious evil that we are visiting on our young.

Its almost over though the fog is lifting fast. Mostly just the pervs and uber lost still screaming.

OceanSlim 1y ago

Bruh "gender identity" is what normal people would just call personality. Your personality doesn't change your gender. Dumb dumbs.

Pepe NOSTRos 1y ago

A bunch of gpt2 NPCs bro

Heliodex /🅮/acc 1y ago

Did- did you just create a definition for something that doesn'e exist just to say it's different to something else?

Celata 1y ago

Are you saying that transgender doesn't exist? Interesting take for someone with the pedo flag in their username.

Heliodex /🅮/acc 1y ago

Do you identify as transgender? No? Seems like a proof by contradiction then

Celata 1y ago

If you say that is impossible to be transgender without self-identifying as it and I don't self-identify as it, then by the proof I gave, transgenderism is false and nobody is transgender.

Heliodex /🅮/acc 1y ago

Are you saying that if you're not transgender, nobody is?

a source familiar with the matter 1y ago

"Trans women are women" only makes sense if you don't really believe it, as Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman?" shows. Why do the trannies wear long hair and dresses? What does that have to do using the sound "wuh-man" to describe yourself, if being female has nothing to do with it?

It's the same with fiat "money".

The Hegellians take some phenomenon and redefine it to include other things which sort of look like the original thing. This makes the definition meaningless (what is a dollar? a piece of paper? why should I work all day for them? everyone else does... really? why?) but relies on people implicitly using the old definition.