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I'm always bullshit, #coffeechain We just have so much going on, it's hard not to be.

One would think that "low-time-preference" Bitcoiners, who wax lyrical about beautiful buildings, would jump at the opportunity to bring back beautiful clothes and language. Unfortunately, this is turning out not to be the case.

High-time-preference clothes: T-shirts and flip flops. High-time-preference language: Swearwords like "sh**" and "fu**". That appears to be the unfortunate norm in the Bitcoin space.

I would love to see Bitcoiners rise up, and spearhead a new movement to bring back three-piece suits and eloquent language, but so far my opinions have fallen on deaf ears.

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Derek Ross 2y ago

I love three piece suits. I love dressing up and looking nice. I also love to wear a Bitcoin logo T-shirt to spread awareness. If someone notices the cool looking shirt then it's a conversation starter. That's why I wear T-shirts from time to time.

As for language, I've always hated that some words are seen as bad. Who decided that and why? That seems awful that a group of people decided that one word was better than another.

There is a time and a place to be eloquent and sophisticated and there's also a time and place for laughs and immaturity. A balance of these is where I stand, sit, and sometimes roll on the floor laughing.

Shawn 2y ago

Agreed.

But language evolves over time. There is no more “a group of people decided that one word was better than another” than there was a group of people that decided that elephants should have longer noses.

That being said, maybe I’m just getting older and have fewer fucks to give, but I get the feeling so-called “bad words” are becoming more common in respectable vernacular.

My totally unsubstantiated hypothesis is that some of it may be because people are watching less broadcast TV shows and TV-censored movies, which have profanity limitations. (Maybe the FCC is the “group of people” you refer to?) Yet watching more shows/movies on streaming services, which have no such limitations.

The only REAL bad words are ones that evolved to spread hate and bigotry, and thankfully even streaming services tend to only use them when historically appropriate and/or to expose intolerant behavior.

Murray von Nakamoto 2y ago

In a society where almost everybody agrees with what you wrote, of course hardly anyone is going to care about anyone's flip flops.

What I see around me is a lost, decaying society. My hope was that so-called "low-time-preference" Bitcoiners would try their best to reverse this deadly trend.

Clothing: If I approach someone while I'm wearing a potato sack and flip flops (zero proof of work), I'm just disrespecting them and showing how unimportant they are to me.

Language: Words matter. The words on your cup mean something. The way we use words can, whether we like it or not and whether we're trying to be funny or not, corrupt our brains: https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/obscenities-are-symptoms-of-weak-minds/ (He's talking more in the context of anger/swearing, but I think a similar message holds in general.)

It's worth mentioning that this subjectivist mentality, that things (including arts and language) are not objective, is a part of the deadly, post-modern philosophy that plagues modern universities and is a big reason why people come out of there with corrupt brains incapable of rational thinking. (It's also the exact opposite of Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy, in case anyone is interested. I'm not saying Rand is some prophet and right about everything; I just happen to agree with her on this.)

volition 2y ago

Bitcoin is about self-reliance, respecting property, aligned with individualist philosophy, so this should ultimately lead to stronger morals and higher standards in society that will become apparent in its art over time.

It might take time to take hold and clothing may well advance with technology so will not be quite the same, but no need to become disheartened.