Nostr Web Client

thank you for the clarification

nevertheless, the entry fee to nostr.wine is currently 18888 sats, way more than any other relay. is there a reason for this?

Mazin 2y ago

It’s not “way more” than any other relay. It includes a month of filter.nostr.wine, we have 4 geo balanced regional mirrors, we are on default lists for most large clients so we have large free read costs, and we are the highest performance large private relay.

If you don’t think it’s worth it, there is absolutely no obligation to pay. But is isn’t remotely overpriced or “expensive”. We are nowhere close to recouping our financial investment in nostr and that doesn’t even begin to compensate our 100s of hours of development on our relays.

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Delta, Dirac 2y ago

Yeah, I get that it may be reasonable pricing, especially factoring in engineering time. My thinking is a "top notch" relay (whatever that means) when there are over 5 million DAUs on Nostr, will end up costing less. Just a guess, I don't really know what the server costs are like (but those will come down too -- AWS is expensive).

galegoo⚡ 2y ago

my mistake, didn't know nostr.wine was so well maintained

but, does it make sense from a user experience perspective to have one giant well maintained relay instead of 10 smaller ones?

Mazin 2y ago

Each user needs to answer that question for themselves. I use only nostr.wine + filter.nostr.wine (and recently added our new *free* welcome.nostr.wine relay). This works because filter is also reading and broadcasting to several large relays. I have the equivalent reach and content of someone reading from 15+ relays while only reading from 3.

Whether this is valuable to others is a personal choice. Some benefits I’ve seen are much faster client performance, less mobile data use, and less battery use.

galegoo⚡ 2y ago

good points

have some sats ⚡