14 years in supplement manufacturing; I try to remain honest and do things correctly in this industry, but it get tougher and tougher when very few in this market actually give a shit about anything other than making money. New companies spring up, generate 100s of fake reviews, no one tests anything, suppliers lie constantly, I even argue with chemists about their ethics when I dont have a PhD in the field.

I could shut down the company tomorrow, kick up my feet for 11 months a year and live the same as I do without all the stress, but then I wouldn't have anything I find that rewarding to spend my time on.

National holiday today, off to the office. πŸ˜…

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Love a list from you about decent supplement links to purchase where it is quality

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Only one large brand that I have seen which is fairly consistent and easily accessible to most is Thorne.

Most companies are buying from larger distributors, and it is those companies and distributors that are a problem since they don't do proper QC. Factories in China and India, where the vast majority of supplements are manufactured, don't care, and they are happy to lie or use dry labs to fake their results. I'll sometimes spend 6 months in testing before we actually get a lot that meets spec, and that includes a lot of arguing with suppliers, which is tiring.

Thanks alot πŸ€™

Any views on Now or Jarrow? Been buying those brands, but really don’t know anything about them except from my own experimentation.

Also big brands with large facilities. I think they are decent.

The big issue is that supplements are not properly regulated. In the UK, they are considered food and regulated as such, and that doesn't provide any assurances. There is no requirement to do any testing. ConsumerLabs is a good service in theory, but having one batch that passed their independent testing 4 years ago doesn't mean what a brand is selling today still meets that standard. The brands with their own teams of chemists and in-house labs tend to be the better choices, and I'm certain both Now and Jarrow have these.

I zapped myself, what a donkey ! πŸ˜‚

Why are supplements rewarding to you?

Mostly when customers report back with genuine appreciation for something that has helped them. I also like researching, building and developing things, from formulations to an internal QMS system.

Do you accept crypto?

Bitcoin only, but I am building a custom integration for BTCPayServer to cut out zapier so it is unavailable at the moment. Been making a lot of services platform agnostic because of all the migrations I have had to do over the years.

That's cool. I can use crypto to buy legal supplements too!

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