I'm leaning towards a refurb ThinkPad

You nostr:npub1hklphk7fkfdgmzwclkhshcdqmnvr0wkfdy04j7yjjqa9lhvxuflsa23u2k and the review sites are all leaning that way

I can swap out hardware... I just don't want to do it, shouldn't brake in the first place... and I can follow commands and hit the terminal but really don't like that either... small stuff... I like an app store and app manager... feels like it took decades for that to arrive on Ubuntu

I'd love to make the full switch away from the basket of rotten Apple products

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Cool. Replacing the keyboard,Battery, RAM,and SSD are easy on them. Some models can support back-lit keyboards but do not ship with them. Many new computers do not even support back-liet keyboards at Walmart so that helped push me to refurb ThinkPads lol

Everyone hating on Ubuntu these days for pushing Snaps. Flatpak is much faster and better.