I'm currently looking at... 86 hosts in my environment, and a large chunk of them are not going to be very k8s friendly (dedicated blockchain nodes) but otherwise... Chef does a fine job of managing them for me? Lots of things in Docker, but I *usually* do not use the docker networking because it's pointless.

Plus there's just no way I could subject myself to the networking penalty of Docker/k8s for most of our services anyway