Has a client ever booted a user? Is that's even possible? (I know they can just make a new npub) 🤔 #asknostr
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I wouldn't say they've technically booted them, but they've definitely limited their reach by putting them on automatic block lists in the past. (Primal)
Would this explain me having people blocked that it was not my own doing?
Probably, if you have a user of Primal, then that could be the case. I also know Amethyst has some filters on it that you can turn off, but if you keep them on, it will automatically block people that people you follow have blocked, I think. If I'm remembering how those toggles work, I turn them off, personally. But, at least in Amethyst's case, they are on by default.
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I am not ok with that possibility of someone I follow being blockedd from my list, because someone else blocked him/her. Not ok at all.
Yeah, that's why I turn off those filters. I also use a self hosted nostrudel a lot.
I remember this being a big deal ages ago hen there was no choice on amethyst. It even caused a fork of amethyst to be made called Onyx. I remember complaints were ignored for ages and ages. But then some nostr influencers also started complaining and then #amethyst had to take note lol.
You can switch these off in settings in both primal and amethyst and it *should* work. I think primal and amethyst filters are too wide, it can just block people who have a potty mouth occasionally.
I notice recently some people interacting, and I went to page to follow and they were blocked...not muted but blocked, and I was WTF? Weird.
On which client?
Make sure you check your settings on amethyst and primal. Unfortunately I think they're on by default.
I use Amethyst but I have also Primal. I installed it only because of the wallet. I have no idea where to change those settings. I will try on my own and ask for help if needed. 😉
I'm not sure how you do it on the primal app 🤔
But on web it's Settings > Content Moderation
On amethyst you click on your avatar top left, go to security filters and untick
I was thinking of, say an npub posted illegal material (like the sort nostrbuild autodetects). Could a client be like nah, mate you're barred...? Suppose that would be understandable really. No? Or would that be against the principles of Nostr? (I'm not entirely sure it would be, maybe?)
I actually don't think that's possible with the way most clients are created. It would be pretty anti-nostr though if you ask me, even if the content was illegal.
You could get permanently banned from posting to a specific relay if you're posting stuff that they don't agree with or is illegal. But as far as I'm aware, I don't think there's any mechanism for a client to ban a user.
It would be against the principles of the anti-censorship side of nostr but it would fit with the principles of the anti-being-censored-but-pro-censoring-others side of nostr
Web clients do block IP addresses from accessing them, any client that has a centralized element like a web client's website could do the same. Clients without centralized elements, solely relying on a transferable app and relays, can't really block users.
Any client that has access to your nsec can do some stuff to just fuck up your npub for you. A client could block everyone you follow and send constant spam to get you blocked too, until it loses access to your key. Browser extensions like nos2x can sign individual events to avoid this, or grant temporary signing permission to mitigate it, but nos2x itself could still hypothetically meet with some new malware code to do shit like that. You'd still ultimately be able to use the messed up npub though, or just switch to a new one
I should also add, it's web client instances that block users. Most of them are open-source so you could just host your own instance and not block your own IP address
One more thing: the biggest relays have much more power to silence someone than any client
I remember back when one of the fedi users had his nip05 revoked by iris and was banned from the damus relay I'm 99% sure that he was also using the damus client at the time and could still use it. Most clients are FOSS so could be forked if they started doing that like what Tony did with Amethyst when they were censoring accounts by default. It's certainly possible but if you start doing active moderation (the amethyst stuff could be considered passive since it was just based on user end reports without any investigation) potentially in some locales you can become responsible for what you "allow" which is currently borne by the relay operators.
nostrmo can login by npub, but this is a readonly login.