I'm not a "pacifist", despite basing my personal individual behavior on the principle of non-aggression, despite being antiwar and believing modern war is just yet another Statist racket to crush individuals. In fact, I'm not a "pacifist" BECAUSE of all the above. Deterrence: "Si vis pacem, para bellum", the credible threat of brutal, disproportionate retaliation, and its reality if such sad time comes when it's necessary.

My point being, I can envision scenarios in which civilians are not just innocent bystanders, and make valid targets of violence, especially in a situation of completely asymmetric power against a rich electoral democracy. Doesn't mean in the particular case of Israel and the Arabs I take the latter's side, because there are tons more of factors. Doesn't mean I take Israel's side either, for the same reason.

However, all this said, and even under such broad and loose assumptions, no one can possibly watch the images and videos leaked live on X during the attacks, even as their team struggled to delete them within minutes or seconds, and say that was a military operation. It was butchery, savagery and animalness.

And the perpetrators, those who physically host them and give them cover, those who aided them, and those who support and justify them deserve whatever is coming to them.

If you're among the latter, go watch the videos I'm talking about before you reply here. Post them here where no one will take them down, if you have the balls. Then, give me your arguments. Otherwise, this will be a short, uncivilized exchange. nostr:note1p660l7hcyp82t8n9dcmf09j5se4rzntnskverkaymfcaw83zkptsfmsj5x