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Shawn 2y ago

Before devolving into the inevitable HN mêlée and setting aside the hopeless “Bitcoin is a scam” crowd, there are some telling, uncomfortable comments here.

Just as most humans will not grok Bitcoin until it’s too late, so, too, they’ll gleefully let the likes of Threads mainline all of their personal data into the Meta hive mind.

Those who do value the nature and qualities of nostr still need dramatically better UX. From my vantage point, day by day, we inch closer to it. nostr:note1yfseuhd7plcpch0m44mffhvauk66agzhxsc86g8svaaquxr7q7wshr4gaq

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nobody 2y ago

I kind of don't really want things to get "dumbed down" to get everyone here. If there is a cognitive threshold to getting into the door of nostr I have to wonder if that's why the signal is so strong here.

I frankly am perfectly happy with the interactions and relationships I'm building here. This is the first network I've ever had that feeling of "finding my people."

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Shawn 2y ago

I’m with you and I tend to agree. But, network effects are a thing. In order to develop and maintain the incentives for builders to keep building, they need to make money. For that, they (and we) need a lot more users.

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nobody 2y ago

100%. I'm not saying we shouldn't build out more. Just that I as a user am quite happy with Nostr as it is.

That is maybe not the most productive comment for me to make I suppose.

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5dcd8ebc... 2y ago

I'm new to Nostr, but have been in the internet for 40 years, and seen centralization destroy it from around 1998. Nostr is solving important problems (I describe it as a modified SSB accessible to "normies").

But you are still depending on

1. centralized IP addresses,

2. centralized DNS,

3. centralized (and shadowy undocumented) TLS cabal that determines what CAs are in normies' browser to be trusted for any hostname whatsoever,

4. centralized routing (most normies have only one ISP).

I've talked about baby steps for DNS, IP and TLS elsewhere. I want to give a shoutout here to someone working on the centralized ISP problem.

Caleb J Delisle is the author of Cjdns, a mesh IPv6 VPN which solves the IP problem, and virtualizes the routing. His current project is PktCoin. Namecoin is useful because it provides a globally consistent namespace (i.e. not competing with BitCoin as a currency). PktCoin uses proof of bandwidth as proof of work. The idea is to compensate amateur internet links by cryptographically verified amount of bandwidth provided. It integrates modified bitcoin code with cjdns.

The vision is for people that invest in longer distance pt to pt connections to get compensation, or even just allocate part of ISP provided bandwidth to random Cjdns users.