grants do not care about quality they care about what they can sell to their donators so they keep donating more
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exactly, the customer is not the user, so quality is not important, only how it presents at the grant presentation meetings
also, i'm in this business... i have very bad feels about how replicatr runs after 24 hours, it's not usable for production, and i tried for almost a full month to fix that bug (and fixed several bugs but not this one)
Yeah, it be like pets.com, all over again. 😂
The underpants gnomes are back. This time on Nostr and make it FOSS and it's grants instead of IPOs.
Let's party like it's 1999. 😂
Grants only seem to help build anything high-quality when given to someone who built high-quality things before they got the grant. It doesn't seem to make someone start building better quality and it doesn't appear to be an indicator of quality.
That's why I think crowdfunding is superior to grants. You build up a reputation *first* and then people trust you and pay you to *do more of the same*. And they keep their money in their own pocket, until they give it to you, personally.
But all the grant money flooding the Nostr space has dampened our crowdfunding-fu.
I went to show you all some Nostr crowdfunding and this is what I saw. 😂
Yes, I reported it. Second report to them, in as many days.
https://geyser.fund/?search=Nostr&tagIds=2&sort=balance
This one works.
these guys facilitated my first start ... now, i totally even forget what it was for! wasn't a huge amount, they were running a grant campaign, maybe related to https://github.com/indra-labs/indra
iirc the funding value was around $500 in fiats at the time, about a year ago maybe, could have been sooner
i did a lot of work on that codebase but it languishes because it needs more work and testing, and probably a hella refactor, it was not terrible as it was, included a whole bitcoin-centric SHA/secp256k1 cryptosystem for the connections between peers and clients
yeah, it was over 20k lines of code, all written by me between october 2022 and 23
also, it was initially seeded by a nice irish chap who put up with me sharing his cambridge house for some time and i made the venture to help him (and me) move to madeira before his budget on my sponsorship was expired
much respect and thanks, it was some crazy hard stuff at times and in the middle of it all i started to have all kinds of kidney/diabetes problems that really broke my productivity, and made me quite difficult to be around, many nostriches who know me from december last year would be able to relate
Nah. I have no idea what you are talking about. You've always been a little sunshine. 😉
yes, a hot mess, exactly
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no but seriously, geyser was important in my life around a year ago, and if you go back to their history of grants the first round my indranet project won the first "second prize" from it (just ask nostr:npub13v9zh6hka0heyh5w0ru0ptdyrauf3wx6w25fwxufnz9l0ptax60sg63rka he and i have had much dealings) and i bumbled onto that via the #dvadesetjedan group that i found from twitter, on discord, they pointed me to geyser
i hope some day i will be able to advance the indranet concept, really, it's just the execution of a network transport built on top of the source routed onion TLVs used by lightning
i kinda gave up on it not just because i ran out of funding but because of the complexity of network intelligence (p2p discovery) as i'd taken a shortcut to use libp2p but realised that it introduced a scaling limit
ok, maybe that limit wasn't that big a deal, especially if it was just like bittorrent's mainline DHT, but it's not, libp2p puts you basically on the backbone of the same network routing protocol as IPFS which also has the scaling problem
something me and my sponsor were getting excited about was building a p2p mesh that didn't require nodes to have a full network inventory in order to function, so that clients could send messages and relays didn't have to know who they were forwarding to, necessarily, this is a critical scaling feature and is also why bitcoin has over 20k replicas, which is far more than libp2p/ipfs could ever handle
it was in the realisation of this problem that i was near the end of my sponsorship and i started getting sick
Geyser has an interesting combination of crowdfunding and grants, that we prefer to the OnlyGrants stuff. They sort of amplify crowdfunding with grants.
That's where we're going to setup our funding page, after we launch Alexandria. OnlySats could contribute there, but who knows if they do that sort of thing.
Grants are cool 😎
Crowdfunding is awesome 🤩
Grants paired with Crowdfunding 🤯
We are already running community-voting Grants using 'proportional voting' (1 sat-1 vote), and the next one up is going to be even more powerful, powered by 'incremental voting' (1,2,3 votes per funder based on amount of sats sent).
Let us know if you're interested. Would love to partner with nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f to do a community-voting grant focused just on Nostr startup ideas.
This is also something I was thinking. Let the Nostriches vote with their sats and amplify their effort.
I’m pretty uninformed here but couldn’t 1 sat = 1 vote be gamed pretty easily? Would it be more secure to do 1 sat per unique LN address = 1 vote? Or is the intent to also crowdfund the amount through the votes?