circa 1995 i upgraded to surgical needles... preferably 14 gauge, 16s are too skinny, 14 is the goldilocks gauge, looks the best, fits the best

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yeah, when i first tried to pierce my own septum i used a 12ga needle... too thick... put me into shock, i was on my back legs resting on the chair i sat on while trying to do it

when the professional dude did it, he used a 16 and i didn't feel it... aside from my ears the only ones that are still wide open