fiat incentives drive the aversion to saving

that was a key element of Keynes system that all modern governments and banks run on

it simply does not apply to bitcoin

i am happy to tie up quite an amount of my surplus funds that i will use in future to make payments

it's not a black and white thing, and you'd know this if you actually used it

the only hard part of it is some channel partners are shit, and they cost you force closes, that is like, 1% cost, at worst, the whole thing is your funds are liquid, you can drain all your channels out in minutes if you need to pay something big out of your channel liquidity

and when you have money again, you can atomic swap it back in and done

"tying money up" in stake is not the same thing as opening channels

you can spend your balance down on the channel as soon as it is open

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I don't want to tie up an asset and get rugged. I hate pretty much everything about lightning.

If bitcoin worked exactly like lightning we probably would had never used it in the first place

Yup.

On chain is just brilliantly simple. All needs to be simpler.

Agreed

losing use of the money for a time is far less than losing the money

it's a foundational technology for scaling and what is stupid about hating on it is that onchain is not an alternative, not for point of sale, not for micropayments

there will likely be more alternatives that help fill out the space but ecash is simply just custodial with one extra step, it's not an advance it's a regression