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Fascism and communism are both philosophical ideas, neither of which are correct, nor are they inherently evil, which people throw around to mean "whatever I dislike." If you're going to use commie or fascist as an insult it's required you at least read about it.

zyrotin 2y ago 💬 8

I can work with communism not being inherently evil. It, like most community ideals that only work when everyone is pure of heart, starts to fall apart and begin to bend towards evil above Dunbar's number of like 250 max.

But (and please correct me if I'm wrong here because I'm basing this on "things i read on the internet"), isn't fascism inherently dependant on subjugating/controlling the population through force, and expansion to increase resources (including more lower class workers/slaves) to allow the upper class a more privileged life style? That feels inherently evil to me.

(again, please correct me if I'm wrong)

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Alex Gleason 2y ago 💬 3

The idealistic version of fascism revolves around unity and strength. The fasces is bound tightly to convey that people are stronger together.

Note the two fasces held by Lincoln in the Lincoln Memorial, and Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign slogan "Stronger Together".

zyrotin 2y ago 💬 1

Thank you for the additional information :)

efd50960... 2y ago 💬 1

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zyrotin 2y ago

Thank you for that, it was very informative :)

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At that scale it's not an ism. It's just a community.

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loathsome 2y ago

It depends on what type of fascism you mean. Like communism, it has gone through many iterations and definitions. Mussolini's original fascism was basically socialism without the global mindset (national socialism, if you will). It was all about national struggle and by that I mean nation, not people. Mussolini actually denounced Hitler's racial views and policies in the beginning. Hitler injected German imperialism into his view of fascism. Which is funny, since imperialism is the antithesis of nationalism, yet many nationalists idealize Hitler.

Then you have Franco's "fascism", which was primarily geared towards protecting the Spanish way of life against communism.

Fascism was also very much a reactive ideology, born mostly as a counter for communism. Which would explain the emphasis on geopolitical national struggle. In this respect, calling fascism evil is silly, since most actors on the geopolitical stage were/are evil.

Clout Chaser 🗿 2y ago

Maybe violently subjugating the lower races isn't a bad thing, though?

Albastı 2y ago

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Fascism is inherently dependent on collective action. That is to say, the philosophical core of fascism that distinguishes it from other forms of collectivist authoritarianism is the recognition of violent struggle as the highest order of both the individual and social human experiences. Fascism is not conventionally militaristic in the sense of accruing power to the armed forces and maintaining an ever growing military force for its own sake. Rather, the military, the economy and the state as a whole serve merely as vehicles for the fulfillment of fascism's metaphysical promise; social catharsis through collective violent action - conventionally by way of military adventurism. It's accurate to state that with fascism, war is an enthusiastically anticipated inevitability, the whole socio-economic machinery is bent toward it. Whether this is "evil" is a much longer conversation.