game over nostr 
Discussion
Oh no, now they'll have access to mastadon, a federated (trusted) network?
What are we gonna do?!
Mastadon needs me to either give away personal info (email) or setup my own server.
If the mastadon provider I choose doesn't like me anymore, my account goes away and I need to start over from a new account.
sure but using email is way more approachable for most people than managing keys
i’ve been managing keys for a decade and i hate it. i really don’t want do have to do more of it. and I’m an “expert”, what would normies think?
If you use a password manager, what is the difficulty in storing keys as if they are passwords?
My nostr private key is just my nostr "password".
it’s worse than passwords in 2 major ways:
1. if you lose access to your password manager it’s over. all of you’re social graph is gone
2. if someone steals your password manager is over. you can never remove their access to your social graph
Good points. Dont they apply just as much to storing btc keys? Why can't the solution for one be the solution for the other?
the need to manage keys is one of the worst aspects of bitcoin, but it’s the only way we know to make it work so it’s worth it
taking the worst aspect of it and applying it to social networks for no good reason is not my idea of good design
I kind of agree with this but also know that normies can adapt when they need to.
Sounds like what you're saying is there needs to be some middleware services that hold your keys for you, but also give you the option to extract your keys from the service if the user wants to,
These somewhat exist for bitcoin already in the form of exchanges only difference is that in bitcoin you can make new keys and transfer the value there, where as on nostr i don't think that's possible (yet).
Also it's definitely not "for no good reason". The way you let someone "own" their data is my letting them sign it with keys they own.
It's a design choice that is central to how nostr works which is a very good reason, even if you happen to disagree with it.
Nostr needs a different key structure in order to be more widely adopted. There should be an option to delegate key storage to a trusted third party which lets you use an email or regular password to create posts instead (in my opinion).
The great thing about open protocols is that someone is going to create a product like that and we’ll let the market determine which solution is best for most users.
Weren't we up in arms about Ledger trying to do this shit with people's actual money?
Two differences:
Ledgers business model (up until that point) was based around the fact that it’s impossible to extract a seed from their device
For most people, their social media account is not as important as their wallet. Everybody already uses a third party to login to social media (mostly google) and having the option to use cryptography instead is a huge improvement. Not every social media user wants that responsibility though.
Why did Nostr cross the road so quickly?
Because it wanted to make every second count🤣
Why are you posting here?
because nostr is the only place where you can talk about nostr
on any other platform, no one knows it exists
🤣
I genuinely thought fediverse was a disparaging term to refer to networks run by feds
Not having threads is what makes #Nostr great. You can say as much as you want in one post and not be rate limited.
That's what makes it the killer protocol
LOL