ah'aris nowadays just deny god attributes like jahmeyya, and anyone who denies them is a kafir

that's what did ibn taymiyyah say about anyone who denies that god is above the throne, which includes nowadays ash'ariyya

(the word مأبون means fu##ed, this is how bad it is)

as for the sufis, i showed you what did imam al-shafi'i say about them, nearly all of them fall into shirk such as worshiping graves and such, and that's easily kufr