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CTV enables coinpools, giant channel factories, Ark, and timeout trees. Each of these offer 10x-1000x scalability improvements (with different tradeoffs). The good news is we don't need to handle billions yet, but CTV gets us close (or maybe over!) the first Billion.

Dave Coleman 1y ago

Channel factories can't be done with CTV. It requires LNHANCE or APO, right?

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Ademan 1y ago

Channel factories can be done with just CTV. LNHANCE includes CTV of course.

Dave Coleman 1y ago

This is wrong. You cannot do it with just CTV.

Ademan 1y ago

The original channel factory paper definitely doesn't. It doesn't even require CTV. What are you talking about specifically?

Dave Coleman 1y ago

Of course, it requires NOINPUT, or APO, not CTV.

Ademan 1y ago

What paper are you referring to? The original uses descending timelocks for updates unless I'm missing something.

Regardless, a simple coinpool like tr(, {}) with channel opens for leaves meets the only definition of channel factory that I'm familiar with, and does not require APO (or similar) at all, only CTV.

Dave Coleman 1y ago

I see. I am talking about multiparty channels, which are often referred to as channel factories, but it's an ambiguous name.