Nostr Web Client

Nostr is a great technology but when people post stuff that isn’t related to bitcoin or nostr itself they struggle to get traction and build an audience.

Other platforms have algorithms or tools to cultivate multiple communities of users and interest. We’re a bit stuck with just one at the moment. Solving this is essential for Nostr’s future.

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nicodemus 11mo ago 💬 1

There is no problem. Everything is operating normally.

It’s completely natural that the bitcoin community, which embraces decentralized options, took to it first. It is, therefore, the largest community.

Other communities will take to it, as well, unto their own needs. We are seeing this play out in real-time. Their communities will naturally be smaller, at first, versus the more established bitcoin community.

It’s not an either/or. There isn’t a limitation preventing the growth of any community - that’s what makes part of the nostr protocol great. It’s just early days.

Early adopters of nostr (from a community) should really be seeing this as a time of opportunity. They get to help build their community, and their influence will play a key role.

It makes me think that the people complaining are those less interested in community and more interested in selling something. And one thing I’ve seen over and over again, from the radio ham community to bitcoiners to homesteaders - its community over shilling products. V4v, sure - but that’s not what’s making nostr thrive right now.

Eventually, there will be more robust stores for them to sell their products via nostr directly.

But this is not your typical algo-driven social media. People here talk to others because they like what they have to say - not because it’s rammed down their throat.

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rabble 11mo ago 💬 1

nostr:npub1qqqqypnst2u7wdlmexad9gjamstlg7c4ck2w4cadv4j5xd5e8vvsupryz3 it’s not a problem that there is a robust community of bitcoiners on Nostr. The problem is that is very hard for other unrelated communities to form on Nostr and grow.

Nostr as it currently works tends to push people in to the one big tightly connected conversation. It’s why mostly Nostr is in English with a smaller community in Chinese, Japanese, and Thai. With languages that are closer to English they’ve had a harder time creating the space and connection to develop.

As long as it’s hard to find these other communities then people will join and say, oh I don’t care about bitcoin so much, this place isn’t for me. Or “mierda, mi gusta bitcoin pero no se ni pomo como hablar en inglés, entonces nostr no es para mi, tampoco.”

We can solve this but we need to listen to the folks who join but don’t stick around.

nicodemus 11mo ago

Ah. I have seen this as a be-your-own-algo problem. I am always tweaking my own feed based on the content people post. My thinking is that people are used to - and maybe addicted to - being force-fed content without having to think much. Indeed, there is an entire “influencer” economy built around this.

Maybe more support is needed for something like kind-34550. As there is more demand, opportunity will grow and the demand will be met.

I am not suggesting we don’t listen, but I am suggesting the complaints don’t hold a lot of water. The ability to build a community *is* there, tho it’s very primitive. Again, look at the ham radio community as an example. Much smaller, more niche than most cultures. Difficult to find much on any social media. But they found themselves here. It’s doable.

Nostr doesn’t owe anyone anything. Relay runners, protocol devs, app devs, and users running (QA) it all - they are either building for themselves or for opportunity.

If the people complaining really want to be helped, we should push them to contribute to dev work and get involved. My $0.02.

I get a little irritated by people whining about how it doesn’t fit their needs the exact way they want. Tells me there’s a good chance they’re missing the point or the great opportunity.

If they’re not interested in the opportunity or helping nostr to grow - cool! Don’t complain. Go elsewhere for a while. If nostr succeeds at its decentralized mission, they’ll be back. It’s inevitable. It’s why bitcoiners are here en masse.