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The Jewish holocaust is a key myth for the Statists (we had to go to war against Germany) and for anti-Statists (look how evil the State can be); it seemingly defines both Jews and antisemites.
And yet, upon closer inspection, I am not convinced that any such thing as the extermination of the Jews was ever planned or implemented.
'And yet, upon closer inspection, I am not convinced that any such thing as the extermination of the Jews was ever planned or implemented.'
GTFO with your bullshit.
What makes you think otherwise? Perhaps you have seen the photographs of emaciated corpses from the liberation of Nordhausen?
Have you ever been here?
I have not
I can't believe I accidently zapped this.
feel sorry for you. it's the first insult I come accross on . It was bound to happen.
It was implemented, it happened. Fuck yourself retard!
Why do you believe that?
That you're a retard?
Why do you believe that the Nazis planned the extermination of the Jews and attempted to carry it out with partial success ?
I don't think they planned it, but it happened.
Oh, if you mean that many Jews died in the camps from "Allied" bombs, and (as German industrial capacity collapsed late in the war) disease and starvation, I am in total agreement. I don't think it was millions but probably hundreds of thousands died needlessly. The Nazis (who sent them to the camps) are ultimately responsible. I also believe there were some intentional mass murders of Jews, particularly the decimation (in the precise meaning of the term) of the Warsaw Jews following the Warsaw uprising. What I doubt are the things modern scholars doubt, like the electric floors, the vacuum death chambers, the rollercoaster of death, the human skin lampshades, etc. Plus I also doubt the gas chambers.
I don't doubt gas chambers/showers. Camps were "just" work prisons but Germans being too effective, they overflowed them and the only way was to get rid of the prisoners, many of them weren't even Jews. Having a bit more money or land than the rest, was the main crime.
Nazis just wanted to steal from them. This is also why #Bitcoin is better than your gold.
The same is happening in Eastern (ex) Ukraine. Russians taking over properties and land while moving the residents "to safety".
Why do you believe that? What evidence convinced you?
Talking to family members, decades ago, reading books from both sides of the conflict. Saying something like the Holocaust never happened is as retarded as it goes.
What's next? You'll say WWII never happened?
It's retarded to demand evidence? No wonder you believe in Bitcoin
It's retarded to demand evidence while you can take a cheap flight to Poland and see Oswiecim.
I believe in #Bitcoin because I can verify the circulating supply on my own. How do you verify the supply of gold, retard?
Don't try to by witty, you're not.
So I can see the gas chamber built by Polish communists after the war?
what books have you read that convinced you if you dont mind me asking?
I mean, we can at least confirm that the distortions (human skin lampshades amongst others, Auschwitz death count) were pushed? So where does the suspicion end for you?
One of the more intriguing things to me is the following:
"The three main history books written in the first decade after the war were by Churchill (The Second World War) De Gaulle (Memoires De Geurre) and Eisenhower (Crusade in Europe) . Between them they contain over 7000 pages (excluding forewards indexes etc). Not one of these history books mentions one word about the suffering of Jewish people or the Holocaust.
These three books were published between 1948 and 1959."
is that not a bit suspicious? you tell me...
Finally, didnt "Judea Declares War On Germany" happen? What does a nation with a notable Jewish population do about such a declaration?
Sentiment has no place in this discussion.
Churchill's "The Second World War" does briefly mention the Holocaust in passing, but it is not a central focus of the book. Page 15 for example:
In the Second World War every bond between man and man was to perish. Crimes were committed by the Germans under the Hitlerite domination to which they allowed themselves to be subjected which find no equal in scale and wickedness with any that have darkened the human record. The wholesale massacre by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women, and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pigmy proportions. Deliberate extermination of whole populations was contemplated and pursued by both Germany and Russia in the Eastern war.
I'm not a statist cock but pretending people didn't die in concentration camps is ridiculous.
you seem quite emotional about this though... using words like "pretending" preclude the possibilty of having an earnest and dispassioned discussion ... plenty of decent and intellectually honest folks on the revisionist side and whether you like it or not, there are entirely legitimate questions...
its reactions like yours that are codified into european law upturning centuries of hard won freedom of expression rights in the west... this really is the MAIN issue at this point and your emotional attachment to this is a real problem for people of a skeptical nature...
super weird that emotion - considering the supposed event is 80 years in the past...
You claimed Churchill didn't mention Holocaust.
I gave you a proof he did.
You tell me I'm emotional.
yet you are still complicit in this:
its reactions like yours that are codified into european law upturning centuries of hard won freedom of expression rights in the west... this really is the MAIN issue at this point and your emotional attachment to this is a real problem for people of a skeptical nature..
have you studied what happened to people such as ernst zundel, lady michele renouf, or any of the other countless victims of what you are propping up here?
you know about this old lady and what she has suffered because of people who morally grandstand like you are doing?
even this legend, with a moderate view based on SOURCE MATERIAL (which almost NONE of the "official narrative" is) has been a victim of the type of purity spiralling you are fanning here:
and btw, if you havent gone through or are familiar with the folks presented above, you really are only informed by the propaganda machine and therefore your opinion doesnt matter at all.
You claimed Churchill didn't mention Holocaust.
I gave you a proof he did.
Now you're jumping all over the place. Believe whatever you want, but Holocaust happened, and not only Jews died. That's a fucking fact.
and for a "memer" interested in free speech I presume, you are on the wrong fucking side here bro.
Saying the Holocaust never happened is the wrong fucking side, bro.
no one said that... i mostly asked questions.
No one? Pay fucking attention. Will ya? You said the Holocaust wasn't mentioned in ano of the three books. While your friend BigRetard said this:
he isnt my friend and I think we should just let it go...
i encourage to rethink your dogmatic position as it is constibuting to eroding free speech, guilt tripping whitey and fucking with people who are just seeking answers...
keep memeing bro you are really making a difference...
as far as your ignorance related to the polish communists goes, have a look and NOTICE THE SOURCE:
"The old plaques, put in place by the Com- munist government of Poland shortly after the end of World War II, read: “This is the place of martyrdom and death of 4 million victims murdered in the Nazi genocide, 1940-45.”
The estimate of 4 million people initially believed to have died at the camps has been revised by scholars of the Holocaust, who say that the number is actually about 1.5 million.
The old plaques were removed after Poland’s Communist regime was voted out of power."
https://www.jta.org/archive/plaques-at-auschwitz-to-be-replaced-efforts-continue-to-preserve-camp
Does that say the Holocaust never happened? Are you retarded too?
it says the numbers have been revised by 80% downward... and that the original numbers were falsely erected by the polish commie guv...
something you scoffed at with the other dude...
anyway man, you havent done your research thats clear...
have fun!
Try again. Does that say the Holocaust never happened?
no i never said it did...
what it does is who that some fudgery has been happening and if you dismiss that out of hand then good luck but you aint honest.
also have you heard of any of the people i mentioned ?
do you know their stories of persecution by self-important hall monitors and cunt judges who have desteoyed their lives for asking questions?
you fucking nigger.
your shit stinks too little boy
Some argue the entire war was undone, else how can Nagasaki and Hiroshima be habitable today, but trinity is still not?
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this dude doesnt read hes is more interested in moral proselytizing for the mainstream on this one...
he must be jewish is all i can think since he doesnt appear to give a shit that freedom of speech is being inhibited by this gay sentimentalism...
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#sus