šŸ is making a huge mistake with the new EV regulations. The creation of 35k charging stations per year and the amount of battery waste once it’s depleted…huge shitshow

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It’s a fuckin massacre.

Hopefully all of these dip shits will completely irrelevant by then and we can get some adults in the room.

Hopefully you’re right. A lot of international pressure on this. I don’t trust any side of the political spectrum with it. Too much political capital to be gained for the unproductive class šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø

EV will be the biggest rug pull ever.

Why? They don’t seem that risky to me.

Anytime a government introduces a massive policy and infrastructure change, there’s lots of room for incompetence and corruption. In this case there’s the big issue of the 35k charging stations that need to be built annually, the toxic waste left behind by the depleted EV batteries too.

The potential ramping down of the production of fossil fuel energy is also a mistake.

Would you be less concerned if construction of the 35k charging stations was only driven by the free market?

Not really no. There’s still the concern of where to place them and what does it mean for the gas stations. EV batteries issues still remains and šŸ sovereignty with fossil fuels would still be endangered if they decide to ramp down production.

Interesting. A lot of separate points here. I am interested in the battery idea. I was under the impression that there is actually a positive economic incentive to recycle them (e.g. Redwood Materials here in the US). Are used batteries piling up somewhere or something?

I know there’s a government program (partnership between provinces) that started in 2021 to recycle EV batteries. I don’t know all the details but I wonder how it will hold up as they ramp up production of batteries.

Ok ok. And then the question of energy sovereignty… my assumption is that šŸ would produce the energy needed for charging EVs. Is there a reason EVs would cause šŸ to start importing energy from other countries?

That’s my thought as well. We would produce the energy needed to charging EVs. In my opinion, EV is just one part of the green energy plan.

If I look at what happened in Europe with the nuclear power plants, I wouldn’t want something similar to happen with the production of fossil fuel extraction once they inevitably decide to ramp down its production

I think how fossil fuels are treated moving forward is probably the most interesting idea to think about that you shared. It’s of course connected to EVs but I think it’s also somewhat independent. Nothing technically stopping the government from being positive toward both.

ā€œTechnicallyā€ is an important keyword here. Fossil fuels have been demonized in the west for quite some time now. Especially in šŸ

Yes. And I agree that demonization is a mistake and will have consequences. I guess my whole thing is that EVs seem good. I don’t want to see them framed in opposition to fossil fuels.

šŸ’Æ but doesn’t seem to be much of a free market when you strip away government incentives.

Really? I feel like the market has clearly shown an appetite for Tesla vehicles independent of incentives. I’m less confident about other EV makers however.

Definitely. Especially if they actually ramp down production of fossil fuels. Once they realize their mistake. It’ll be too late