Fox News? What year do you think it is?
For me it was the best place to live, all things considered.
English speaking, high quality of life, much more progressive Bitcoin policy etc.
One is much more likely to go to prison for criticising Israel in America than in Australia. Or hadn't you noticed that? Guess it's not on Fox News.
Is Australia the freest place on earth. No.
Here is a good summary though if one wanted a more objective measure of freedom than "I can have lots of guns" lol
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices
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That's why it's funny.
Rogan and Carlson don't tell you that either though...nothing has materially changed.
Even right now, as we discuss, you are afraid to say the word Israel or discuss the US arrests related to speech around it. Similar "antisemitism" fees speech restriction bills have failed in Australia, but not in the US.
So...are you free?
The antisemitism bill is not law.
I’m also not afraid to criticize Israel.
You’re mistaken on both counts.
I guess you haven't done so then because you agree with Israel?
But we digress...
The question was: are you more likely to go to jail for criticising Israel in America than in Australia?
You keep making bad faith assumptions about me.
Not a game I’m interested in playing.
Catch you another time my guy.
Not at all man, I'm just going by your posts.
Your main comment on the matter was that you don't care about Israel.
Very happy to be corrected at any time.
I don't mean any offense, but not caring about Israel when your country (the freest in the world) is its main financier, seems a bit unusual don't you think?
Maybe there is more to flesh out there.
Here’s where I’m at on Israel as someone who leans American isolationist.
AIPAC should be required to register as a foreign agent under the FARA. It openly lobbies the U.S. government in support of a foreign nation, and while it claims to be an American organization, its efforts clearly advance the interests of the Israeli state.
Under FARA any entity acting “at the order, request, or under the direction or control” of a foreign principal and engaging in political activity must register. If AIPAC’s coordination with Israeli officials is substantive, this threshold may well be met and if it isn’t, perhaps the law should be updated to reflect modern influence operations.
Second, we should end all foreign aid to Israel. Israel is a wealthy, technologically advanced country with nuclear weapons, a thriving economy, and a robust military-industrial base. The $3.8 billion military aid formalized under the 2016 Memorandum of Understanding is corporate welfare for defense contractors and a subsidy for endless conflict. Let them fund their own wars.
Third, I don’t have a personal stake in Israel/Palestine’s generations old religious and territorial dispute.
As an American taxpayer, I don’t want my money involved in a conflict that has zero direct benefit to the United States.
I want out of it financially, militarily, diplomatically.
Finally any federal antisemitism law that restricts speech is unconstitutional and un-American.
The First Amendment protects political speech even if it offends.
Criticizing Israel or Zionism is not hate speech; it’s protected expression under the first amendment.
Respect.
It is absolutely true that Israel is a money laundering operation for the US military machine (US tax-payer money funnel), and that entire political and media landscape is therefore oriented around supporting it.
I also agree with everything else you said, but personally would go one step further and suggest that nations should try and pressure israel to stop mass murdering kids, but that this is not necessarily consistent with a libertarian isolationist stance (so I accept this is my personal bias).
Thank you for clarifying your position. Peace.