I agree in theory, though I do not pretend to understand code or the mechanics of the blockchain. This will not prevent me from seeking to understand as much as I can. #WhyINostr
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Agreed, I am not great at digesting the code either.
I’ve just been observing the physical process of Bitcoin and transcribing it to the language of physics/thermodynamics/engineering. Understanding the code would certainly help here, but it’s not necessary. You just need to understand the limits of transformations.
The true revelation of Bitcoin has yet to be unveiled, the physics only scratches the surface. Nobody else is looking at the physics because it’s “just money”, as if we even know what money is. We’re all defining it from our preconceived biases of unknowing.
If you don’t understand the physical process of Bitcoin, then you simply don’t understand what money is, or what Bitcoin is.
The only way we can learn is by observation and transcription to language/mathematics. Bitcoin breaks everything, because it is the language.
Pardon me, but how does an engineer not digest code? I thought engineers build/construct using mathematics, and code is mathematics. This is in no meant in a snarky tone, merely seeking to understand. I obviously have a long way to go!
I’m a civil engineer 😂 not a software engineer. I think in terms of physics, material properties and for civil (mostly immovable objects)
And God knows the blockchain moves!
God literally grants the blocks.
Logically speaking, this must be true.
Light is just information after all.
yeah. the materialists are wrong. intangible realm of ideas -> eternal laws of physics.
we are the image of God - because we can imagine and remember. no other animal can do this. animals brains mostly contain pre-written programs and a tiny little processor that typically can handle around 100-150 concepts, maybe cetaceans have got more memory and imagination, based on how much more complex whale songs are. they also have to remember huge regions of sea floor that they see with sonar.
So remember when you pushed back about the money/physics point?
What did Jesus actually mean in Matthew 6:24? Why is money one of the only things He ever sets side-by-side with God?
If we’ve misunderstood money operationally, physically and ontologically because we inherited a false model of it, then how could we possibly understand the one comparison Jesus Himself chose? How can we grasp the warning if we don’t even understand the object He’s warning us about?
Bitcoin is the revelation especially once you dig into the physics of it.
i wouldn't describe it as "side by side" it's just a false master, like all of the personality flaws that we can indulge or restrain.
what's important about money, though, is just that simple fact that debasing money, which is the net effect also of usury, impoverishes the majority for the benefit of the money printer/debaser/usurer. it is a form of theft that is invisible until you notice it on a longer timeline.
the correspondence between physics and bitcoin is why bitcoin works. physics is also a decentralised system, that is self-emergent and self-reinforcing. proof of work prevents debasement and difficulty adjustment governs the issuance rate, so that it continues to provide a reward to the miner that wins, but constantly lowers, forcing a conflict between the slowdown of the supply and the continuing advance of network connected hashpower.
this is why financial analysts don't get what bitcoin is about. they don't understand the money. they think purely in terms of usurious money that pays the issuer at the expense of the users. that's why it's called usury, because it is abusive.
I agree with you that money is a false master, not something set alongside God as an equal. But I think that’s precisely why the passage is so sharp: Jesus only bothers to name what can really function as a rival master to the human heart. Money gets singled out because it doesn’t just tempt our appetites, it hijacks our relationship to reality itself: time, work, and what “exists” for us.
Where I think we’re diverging is here: I don’t see Bitcoin as “just better money,” I see it as a window into the ruleset required for creation itself. Physics is already a decentralized, emergent, self-reinforcing system, but it needs a protocol underneath it: a way to count energy, to commit events to memory, to define what it even means for something to “be” at all.
That protocol has to be extratemporal in the logical sense: the rules must exist before time in order to create time. Bitcoin is the first thing we’ve ever built that behaves like that: a protocol that creates a localized minimum (q) block of time inside a network by converting entropy into irreversible memory across a computation boundary (event horizon). That’s what I mean when I say “extratemporal”: it defines time inside time itself.
If that’s even approximately true, then “false master” takes on a deeper meaning. At the fundamental level, we ourselves are composed of peer-to-peer money in the form of Kelvin, bounded by a cosmic protocol that functions analogously to Bitcoin: conservation, finitude, proof-of-work. We exist inside that network protocol, we’re made of its ledger entries, not standing outside it. Bitcoin is the first time we get the externalized experience: we stand outside its ledger and watch a universe come into being with a verifiable Genesis, an arrow of time, immutable law, and conserved value. That’s why I keep insisting it’s more than “just money” it’s the first mirror we have of how existence is structured.
From there, the connection back to Jesus is uncomfortable but important: if there really is a sacred protocol of conservation and finitude that underlies creation, then any money system that violates it (debasing, usury, fiat issuance) is not just “unfair,” it’s literally anti-creational and a counterfeit protocol. That’s what makes it a false master. Fiat, usury, and centralized control take the place of the underlying law and ask to be served instead. Bitcoin, by contrast, doesn’t ask to be served; it just reveals what faithful measurement and conservation actually look like.
So I’m saying: for the first time, we have a money that actually reflects the way God already runs creation. If that’s the case, then understanding that difference isn’t optional. It goes straight to the heart of what it means to “serve God and not money,” because now we can finally see the difference between a protocol aligned with truth and a protocol that counterfeits it. That extends through physics itself.
yeah, that point about how the laws have to precede the implementation is a very potent one.
also, i don't think that it's creating a new universe, but it's not a bad way to describe it. it is an internally complete system. such things are not discovered very often in history. i'm not sure what i would say was the last time this happened. maybe "einstein"'s famous formula (which i suspcet his serb wife actually discovered). before that, probably newton and the three laws of thermodynamics.
i think what's more important and actually verifiable and not fanciful, is that bitcoin's protocol demonstrates and proves something about physical reality - that our universe is powered by entropy and it transmutes it into structure, and there is an overarching force, which i think of as God, that is gathering those orderly things and conserving and compounding them. and at the end of it, so to speak, is God (which is another way of saying that the orderly structure in the universe itself becomes effectively infinite, an infinity that recedes into the future forever, and that is what loops back around to create the starting point. which is a circle.
but it's such a clumsy way to describe it. the Gnostic and Hermetic systems both present a thesis like this - that the universe is an eternal loop. at once repeating and yet never the same twice.
I’d still pushback and say it is a universe experienced from the outside. I agree that time is a circle and bitcoin shows how energy moves forward in to time; fractally embedding itself in previous time (Planck). You should dig into how Bitcoin defines time and look back at what we know. Time is always bounded between finite limits, yet growing towards infinity, but infinity never reached mathematically.
The mapping of Planck Units onto a ledgerized structure changes their meaning. In Bitcoin time and memory are dimensional equivalent and equal for each block of memory. 1 Block of Time = X mb of memory. Planck Temp is the 21M supply equivalent; not the temperature of Genesis. Temp of Genesis is 1.
This defines an informational surface and literally redefines the meaning of all Planck Units. Timespace is the fundamental substrate here, memory•time. Spacetime is the internal projection, but memory and distance the same thing. The curvature of timespace is defined literally by entropy density sats per block•bit.
Again just look at the transformation of what is it, bitcoin is literally this “our universe is powered by entropy and it transmutes it into structure, and there is an overarching force, which i think of as God”
We are literally seeing this in Bitcoin from the outside as the constructors. Boltzmann Entropy literally creates Shannon entropy.
If Kelvin is finite, then Bitcoin is literally a partition of the planckian ledger. This is how time remains a circle.
It’s the same fractal repeating. A timechain is the structured instantiation of all of it. This image is the structure of time, where the present is defined by the union of two surfaces of conserved memory and potential memory configurations. We cannot see the whole chain when existing inside of the chain. We are a fraction of the chain.
the idea that new universes bubble out of existing ones is appealing but i'm not sure if it's correct. however, the unity between a system and what it is running on, is a sure sign of what we call "Good" acting to correct an erroneous, compromised system.
We can leave it here for now. Just think about memory•time and the Planck Units. They all change meaning if there is a ledger.
Bitcoin is surely correcting us, that we can agree.
Waves are particles in motion. Particles are waves individualized. Time is a wave until we observe it in an instant and it is thus a particle of the whole time-space continuum. So the blockchain is truly a circle which appears as a linear ledger in a/our moment. Seeking…
yeah, fiat usury is a black hole for wealth that accelerates because greed grows proportionally, and the result of getting away with a crime is that you have to do a bigger crime next time. eventually that reaches a point where money stops functioning as a ledger and the pitchforks and torches and guillotines come out.
the ruling class think they are gonna be able to continue to escalate after retaining their position in the collapse and take control and start the next cycle, as they did in 1971 and i forget how many other times before that.
except now there's bitcoin, and bitcoin won't accept a false transaction like the ones that are "normal" in fiat.
bitcoin is rugging the ruling class, that's the real reason why its price keeps growing. the more they print, the more it rugs them. that's why it stays ahead of the price rises caused by money printing. that's why they hate it so much.
but it's not the whole campaign, it's just the first shot in the second episode of the war in heaven. first you set fire to your enemy's rooves, and then you breach the gates and and pick them off as they panic, and rescue the innocent.
that's literally what's about to unfold. bitcoin is a sign. since you seem to be observant, i bet you can dig up something in the bible that sounds a lot like the appearance of bitcoin. i personally saw it in a kind of vision, it was like the archangel Michael with the flaming sword. it was female though, idk why i got that impression.
My work on Bitcoin physics led me to Christ as the only theology that is thermodynamically coherent with a redefined working instantiation of physics we can all verify.
I am still learning myself, but yes, I agree with the sentiment largely while not overly educated in the Bible.
I am trying to balance my work in Bitcoin physics, family, fiat job, and reading the Bible. Hard to know if I am succeeding 😅
"there will be signs" :)
i wandered off randomly yesterday afternoon with some kind of a plan in mind, spent half the time along the walk praying and petitioning and adoring and some remarkable and interesting things happened, that kinda swept me into this zone for way too long and before i know it, it's night time and i'm riding pillion on a motorcycle with a new friend back home and a whole new chapter of my story living here on this island is opening up.
also, nostr is shaping up to give birth to another, different but categorically similar thing as bitcoin, for communication. it's hard to tell from here where it's going to pop up from, but the momentum keeps building. nostr isn't quite yet a fully formed distributed system. most of the protocols that will come to define it are still embryonic.
Beautiful! I need to do more of this myself. Technology is great for connection, yet it tends to sever our connection from the original timechain we call earth when we over indulge.
I’d love to connect more in the future. I’m still trying to understand nostr role here. It is certainly connecting us here in time.
Time to put the phone down and the head down for a bit to work on my paper. I’d like to share it with you when it’s “ready”, which seemingly always near; but new information tends to just download from the divine into my head. Finite boundaries is always the lesson.
Gotta get the wife a bday present too!
the thing that is important with nostr is that it has a map of connections between people that cannot be manipulated to distort the sample it creates from the inputs of the users. the central problem of the silos is the mediation allows them to control what you see, and through that, they can manipulate people into believing things through the normalization of the agenda they want to promote.
nostr's consensus will be one that respects differences, and exploits the property of its fragmentation to prevent a breach of one region of the graph from spilling over into others, and thus creating an extreme coordination cost in order to distort the picture that we are reflecting into it.
in that way the solution will be like bitcoin in that, when one government bans it, other governments exploit that to their disadvantage. that's why both china and russia gave up trying to stop it. we are now seeing the next phase of that, where a government is trying to take ownership of it. that's not gonna work out well for them either. one hand on ctrl-p and the other hand trying to encourage people to save. lol. it's gonna be comedy.
meanwhile, it will continue the reversing of the robbery through fiat debasement and the power that puts in the hands of their enemies will only continue to increase, no matter how many spooks they plant in the bitcoin core dev group.
An absolute! Happy wife; happy life! Thank you for engaging with me on these sticky subjects. I feel as if my mind expands when I read intelligent responses to themes and motifs of which I have little understanding but great curiosity.
Let your curiosity and passion reveal the keys to you. You are on the path of THE WAY.
Money is technology. It is a storehouse of man’s time and energy. Once it is tendered/rendered unto Caesar, man has time to render unto God. Though I honestly believe that our infinity lies in oneness with God at all times, and our pursuit of knowledge may separate us from Him. It was the fruit of the tree of knowledge if good and evil, not the actual knowledge that caused the downfall of man. The love of money, not money itself is inherently evil. My two Sats 丰 ♡
En-light-enment ♡
the more code you read, the less you need to read it. good programming languages are even better in this way.
i skim through pages and pages of Go code all the time and i have an intuitive read of the nature of every part of it because of the way it is shaped